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Old 03-21-2018, 02:13 PM  
CarlosTheGaucho
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Originally Posted by crucifissio View Post
it may be written somewhere but it is not factual reality...I have been to too many islamic countries and met too many people and seen too many non-mulisms living there to know this is not true at all...keep in mind I was in butt fuck places that are not even used to tourists...they are normal people who were genuinely happy to see me and wanted nothing more from me than to chat and drink tea...
It's hard to argue against the fact that there are fine people all over the Islamic lands, in fact, I wish to travel some myself, Iran, Lebanon, even the very heart of the Islamic world - the house of Saud, out of personal interest.

But that doesn't entail me to apologize and justify Islamic mass migration to non-Islamic lands. As a general rule, and as history proves it again and again, assimilation is only possible on an individual, not on a group level. And this doesn't take into account an antagonistic civilization.

If major hordes of individuals from Islamic civilization in such a short time enter a non-Islamic civilization - it's a recipe for disaster, and a sure clash of civilizations. Not only does our civilization have very little in common with the Islamic civilization, it's moral code is entirely antagonistic to the Islamic moral and ethical code. The Islamic ethics is based on its supremacy.

It's not a coincidence that Islam has been in constant conflict and war throughout the history (and still is pretty much whenever in the world there is Islam mixing with non-Islamic population). It is written in its doctrine and DNA.

This can perhaps mix on an individual level, but never on a group, and certainly not on an ideological level. Even the nicest Muslim in the world will not save you from the influence Islam as an ideology has over its followers.

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Originally Posted by crucifissio View Post
the 1000-s of churches may be from the conquests but they were not torn down and the infidels were not purged...the proof is in the pudding...
Here's an example - Annatolya, today's Turkey, used to be a Christian country. In the year 1453 the Constantinopole fell to the Ottoman empire. Those barricading in many of the Churches were burned alive, followed by mass executions, looting and capturing of tens of thousands of Christian slaves. Hagia Sofia was converted into a Mosque (Btw. this is a symbolic act anytime Islam conquers a new territory - Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem was also built as a symbol of conquest).

Aftermath the Christians were allowed to return to their homes, given there were any homes left. But Sharia (Islamic rule) was imposed, the Christians could continue to live there under Islamic rule, but became the second class citizens aka "dhimmis". The pressure of living in a second class citizen status forced them, over time, to either convert or to flee.

Today, Turkey is 99.7 pct. Islamic, the amount of non-Islamic population perhaps wouldn't be able even to fill the housing that still remains intact since the classical civilization was conquered. The remaining Churches may be visited by tourists.

This is a more recent example, but the same faith met pretty much all those (today) Islamic countries outside of the Arabian peninsula (which was originally also inhabited by Jews, Christians and Pagans, but these were cleansed and conquered still throughout Mohammad's life). Today - the Islamization continues mostly in Africa, and in the Western Europe.

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Originally Posted by crucifissio View Post
you are taking this waaay to seriously....I mean you are free to believe what ever you wish but what you are saying simply is not true...
No I'm not free to believe whatever I wish, there is a difference between a belief and a reason. One can believe that Earth is flat but that doesn't hold ground when confronted with the reason.

About taking it seriously, to the contrary, I don't think we take it seriously at all, certainly not that seriously as a certain other group, let's see a few examples:

Who's demanding Islamic clothing?
Who's demanding Halal food?
Who's demanding Islamic schools?
Who's demanding Sharia courts in Europe?
Who's demanding punishment for anybody that criticizes Islam? Involved in frequent law fare aka legal feud against anybody criticizing Islam?
Who invented the artificial term "Islamophobia" in order to use it for any criticism of Islam?
Who already pretty much bullied the western governments, the corporations, the mass media, the social networks, to basically enforce the Islamic blasphemy laws? (Sharia principle: "no criticism of Islam is allowed")
Who's demanding prayer rooms in public square with special plumbing?
Who's frequently manifesting their power with mass demonstrations and mass prayer in the public square?
Who's staring their first Islamic political parties?
Who's the number one group per capita as a perpetrator of "hate crime" Hoaxes in the US? Taking advantage of the fake "victim" status
Who did use political correctness to bully Hollywood into not portraying villains in their high budget movies as Muslims? (not kidding, this is documented)
Who did use political correctness to bully FBI under Obama to drop all mentions of Islam or Jihad from their counter-terror manuals in 2011?
Who recently persuaded Google to alter its search results to prefer more "favorable" results?
Who is trying to re-write the history and gets involved in "approval" of educational texts that involve the history if Islam?
Who has a network of organizations present in pretty much every western university?
Who's financing Islamic literature and sermons in prisons in order to get new converts? (with major success)


Again to better understand this, this is all in accordance with the Sharia principle of "establishing command over the Kuffar civilization". Once you submit to one demand, three more demands will follow tomorrow.

This I call dedication - btw. have you ever seen just one of those "moderate Muslims" concerned or speaking against any of the above? For sure not, and this has much more effect in advancing the influence of Islam on society than violent Jihad (even the Charlie Hebdo massacre certainly made journalists not to re-post the Mohammad cartoons ever after).

Perhaps it is time to take Islam more seriously, now that it's past our doorstep.

I may try to address the third point of western intervention as well sometime later.
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