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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho
And where am I factually wrong? Can you dispute anything I noted apart from that "not all Muslims" which I didn't claim, and that wouldn't even make sense to claim in the first place? Again, I'm talking ideology and its effects on those that follow and not follow it alike.
And yes I saw first hand how an Islamic community looks like - in Western Europe, it was puzzling. Exactly THAT first hand experience was the primary reason why I got interested in the topic, in order to establish a criticial view on this issue.
And that presence in Europe is frankly the only thing that interests me, I have no business in their lands, apart from as a visitor, or trade. I don't really care how they govern their lands and how many of them will be nice or not.
What I've noted above are just some real manifestations of the ideology in practice, in the history, and what's their basis in the doctrine of Islam. These things are real, do exist, do happen, even on a regular basis. But only if one knows the civilization, its foundation and principles can one be able to understand WHY is this happening.
That something isn't talked about doesn't mean it doesn't exist, and closing one's eyes doesn't make it go away. Of course there will be various levels of dedication among the followers of ANY ideology, but the principal question would be - why should anyone advocate for a totalitarian ideology where one has to rely on its followers NOT following it?
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out of the 50+ islamic countries in the world it is a totalitarian ideology in maybe 4-5...in the others its just a religion and nothing more than that...in the vast majority of countries it is like christianity is in the west...
you place way too much importance on specific parts of their religion and focus too much on things that are not as prevalent in real life...you guys get a lot of real refugees from buttfuck places, basically rubes and this gives you a skewed picture of what life is really like in islamic countries...for example I am ashamed of most of my country men abroad because most, not all, are dumb ass rednecks...I would not want to live with them either LOL
you have to take in to account that journalism is not really about telling the boring truth but more about selling news and getting clicks...sensationalism and fear sell...the boring truth does not...journalism has become a desperate profession and in a world where the internet gives everybody a soap box, the "more interesting" versions of the truth will always win in a sea of soap boxes...