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Originally Posted by StefanG
supposed? how criminals obtained their guns? metholodgy?
so you say there is no statistical proof that 97% of all homicides happen with illegal guns?
you know, i'm giving you shit cause you are occasionally one of the "all press is fake news" posters - but then you pull a number like that out of the air without proof  |
I'm talking gun related crime, not gun related homicides, gun related crime also includes non fatal shootings.
There's the Pittsburgh prison inmates study from 2008 - that has the highest figure, totaling the number of guns owned by the perpetrators to 18 pct, that's widely cited even in mainstream media (and present in the Google results).
Then there's the Chicago inmates study conducted by Duke University and the University of Chicago in 2013, that puts the legal possession by crime use of inmates to 3 pct, but that doesn't have that much of a big sample of inmates. Also there are regional specifics - tougher background checks and higher previous felony rates (which in most cases means a disqualification from being able to obtain a gun legally).
Then there's testimonials from actual law enforcement officers that estimate cca 95 pct. gun crime is committed with guns that were not legally purchased by the perpetrator. That could be about right, especially if it also includes the cca 30 pct. of cases that didn't lead to an arrest and / or where a gun was not recovered.
I mean it's just common sense, even the criminals are in general not very sharp, the stupidest thing one can do in crime is to use a gun that's legally registered on his name.
So I stand corrected and of course accept the shit. But also remain confident that if most, if not every of the media outlets dropped their, not even hidden bias. There would be no need to double and triple-check everything they ever claim.