Originally Posted by pornlaw

Agreed. My Rottie is 4 and is 160lbs. He's European breed, not American. They have a shorter snout, squared off head and are usually more compact, more muscular and larger than their American cousins. But they can be expensive and hard to find.

Absolutely the best dog, calm, relaxed, rarely barks, loves people. Gentle with kids and other animals.

Downside, because if the short snout, his snoring is earth rattling.