Originally Posted by xClips Jim

I find it similarly stunning that people think the U.S had nothing to do with this. Are we going to pretend that South Korea is not an ally that looks to the U.S. constantly in these matters? In your reality, they ignored anything we might have to say or include in these talks, going their own way and ignoring Washington with no input at all?

So far, this is a win for all of us. What percentage of credit you want to give to each party is up to you. But you have to understand that people are going to laugh when you say the U.S. had NOTHING to do with it's ally in the region getting to this event.