Quote:
Originally Posted by Acepimp
It's been determined that if there was foreign meddling, it didn't affect the outcome of the election.
|
and
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acepimp
No foreign country changed the outcome of the election. This has been stated in Congressional testimony.
|
Wired magazine disagrees with you.
https://www.wired.com/story/did-russ...ow-undeniable/
and so does
CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/26/us/20...cts/index.html
The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ntial-election
The Council onForeign Relations:
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/rus...16-us-election
Vox:
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/6/13/...trump-sessions
The NewYorker:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-c...t-a-conspiracy
Politifact:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...tial-election/
The Atlantic:
https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...-trump/510689/
The New York Times:
https://www.nytimes.com/news-event/r...ection-hacking
NPR:
https://www.npr.org/sections/paralle...cials-weigh-in
The Washington Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...2016-election/
Google (via ZDNET)
https://www.zdnet.com/article/google...016-elections/
Business Insider:
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-d...clinton-2017-9
ABC:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-0...-putin/8167552
Time:
http://time.com/4783932/inside-russi...a-war-america/
MSNBC:
https://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch...n-820388419659
Ya see where I'm going with this I hope...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acepimp
You may be right- the left is more aligned with the National Socialist Party (aka the Nazis.)
|
Not true, and not funny. Come on. Lots of Trump followers are facists but you don't see me calling you a Nazi. Cut it out.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acepimp
I don't follow... Did Trump rig the election with super delegates?
|
Not that I heard of.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acepimp
Did Trump hire operatives to take busloads of homeless people to vote at 10 different locations?
|
Not that I know of, and besides, that's a pretty inefficient way to steal votes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acepimp
Or collude with the entire media establishment?
|
No not that I know of. Fox News maybe, but that's just conjecture.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acepimp
No, crooked H did all that
|
Links please.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acepimp
and Trump still beat her in a rigged election.
|
Yes he did, and yes it was.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acepimp
Well the first 2 points are accurate  - But seriously, claiming "hate and fear" is just absurd. It's not being hateful to support border security. |
"Mexico is sending rapists" and "Illegals are stealing your jobs" are 2 themes that resonate deep in some people.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...f-fear/498116/
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...nthusiasm.html
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/stuar..._10316092.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acepimp
We taxpayers waste $130 billion / year on services to illegal non-citizens,
|
Links? Proof?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acepimp
so spending $20 billion on a border wall will pay for itself and then save us a ton of cash.
|
Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush both say that about 40% of illegal immigrants arrive to the US from the air, not by crossing the US/Mexico border on land.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/st...nts-are-overs/
If this number is right, The $20 Billion dollar wall won't save you as much as you think. (And didn't Trump promise you that Mexico was going to pay for that wall?) And don't forget maintenance costs, the cost to wildlife and the environment, etc.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acepimp
Mark, black unemployment is at the lowest rate ever.
|
Yes it is, Congrats!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acepimp
That wouldn't happen if the country was flooded with millions of migrants.
|
I'm confused. Unemployment is at its lowest. The Economy is at it's highest. Why do you need the wall again?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acepimp
BTW we already take in more immigrants than all other countries combined,
|
Yes you have, and that's awesome!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acepimp
and that's fine, we just prefer LEGAL immigration.
|
Of course you do, and I'm sure they do too. Isn't it a better idea to make it easier to immigrate legally to the US? To try to speed-up processing etc so that families can be settled faster?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acepimp
None of this is based on "fear & hatred." (Despite what the lying democrats tell you)
|
From
Republican Richard Corcoran
Don't get me wrong. If there are too many immigrants or refugees to a country, it can become a problem such as a drain on resources. Many people like myself just do not agree that building a wall is the answer to a problem like this. We have a much harder time accepting giving any credibility to the idea of a wall when it comes from such a narcissistic dude like Trump.
Let me ask you a question (are you still reading this far down?): If there was a way to reduce or eliminate the problem of illegal refugees entering the US, that did NOT involve Trump building his wall, would you prefer it?
Peace.