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Old 05-09-2018, 12:07 AM  
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Oh yeah I haven't been paying attention since Mindgeek and Playboy have parted ways!

So this could be entirely it.


Alex De La Flor in Magic Hour - Cybergirls Nudes | PlayboyPlus

is that the set you are referring to?

And i totally understand about the artist, not a salesperson. I'm moreso explaining why there is a disconnect, not that you should necessarily change, moreso that it frustrates me as a fan of your work and your technical ability that you haven't taken advantage, as I know you are in a situation where you could make a big impact.

And as somebody who is usually on the management/ownership side, it's frustrating for me. Because i know the money lost.

I've faced this as a producer as well, anybody with high skill want to shoot a more professional look, it's very hard to stray away from what we want to personally do and what we believe would further our brand among our peers. So I totally understand why some of the vets don't, regardless if they are capable.

So no criticism here. Moreso making a point that it frustrates me that Playboy doesn't do what they have to do, to get this type of content.

Regardless, i'm excited to see where this goes. Hopefully you have somebody marketing it who has shown success with launching softcore sites in 2018, it's a much different world than met-art and hardcore brands, etc etc- So if you dont have access to all the affiliates or have some great ad buyer, etc - i suspect that it may not give you enough of an audience to really make you focus on it as much as you would if it was doing twice the numbers. Which is where it could easily be with half decent marketing

Hope I see some some newer type stuff on hollyrandall.com for sure!

*just saw the set*

I like the lighting in that set but these fancy places you take them are more for the model and the producer, than they are for the value of the content. realistic scenarios or environments are what fans want. They rather see a girl behind a computer or on her phone, or on her patio with belongings around. Honestly if professionals could take some hints from Zishy, i mean obviously not the same thing, nor is he that good technically.. but just take how he is able to produce a more realistic environment. hey even start with normal images of her jogging in a normal residential neighborhood, for the first 1/4 of the set and then goto teasing and naked in a condo. if you cannot manage to find the good realistic scenarios/environments due to risk/convenience, etc

A professional version of that could be heavily marketed on social media as well. The nn/intro images would be heavily shared.

softcore content people need to think more ftv and less glam.

I think people think, well these glam sites were massive and glam is huge, ftv was never nearly as big of a brand. Well fact is, thats due to branding, money, other sites they had on their network that allowed them the epxosure they got. I don't know a single person that knows ftv but if they did, it would have been alot more successful, then if you take the models that playboy can get. Glam sold at a time where all content sold, so as long as the girl was nude, it was going to sell for the most part. Professionals and people with traffic pushed glam because its what was popular, then the internet aged and people started to get picky in what they wanted and they've wanted a personal/real feel for ages. Those glam sites continued to be large due to how big they were early on, you can only drop so fast. They developed fans who don't know better. But to succeed NOW means you need to launch with what people want at that day you launch. And for a long time now, that's been a personal/real feel to your content, regardless if its technically great (pro)

FTV is a style that could still do well, glam is not
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