Originally Posted by thommy

every word is correct and i really know that this is nothing else than a nice dream because united states is too much frozen in the constitution.

the real problem on this constitution is that it is something like the bible - hundreds of years old, written in another world, and for every pro you can find a contra. last not least it will be a court that have to decide what is written there and what was meant and that again leads to the next big problem of this system because also the judges are nominated because of their political point and view and not because they are neutral.

so it will always be the money that controls the united states and never the people (even when a lot of them believe it).
all one can vote for is a rough trend - a decision between cancer and HIV.

the one and only country in the world that I personally know what can call itself democracy is switzerland. and if you see the life standard there they can not do that wrong. also when you talk with people there about politics it is really interesting to listen.
some of them are voting for their favorite party but in the same moment they tell you "but i don´t agree with this and that from this party, but never mind we well not let this pass trough".

the complete political landscape there has nothing to do with ideology it is just based on single arguments what are differing from case to case.
but that this works is also an effect from a super education.
even the dumbest there have an astonishing knowledge about economic questions and I think without that it would not happen that citizens from a country vote against lower taxes, against more holidays and against higher minimum wages (and much much more).

a democracy starts with it´s people. if you let them dumb and uneducated you will get trumps (just look at the average education level of all those countries that have one of them) and if you educate them you see prosperity and happier people.

I wish the world could copy a bit from the successful countries where people live in freedom together instead trying to repeat mistakes from the past again and again.

Originally Posted by thommy

THAT´s the point. and even when you let people decide it the voters of the ruling party would vote against it (except the ruling party is the other one).

we all should get familiar with the idea that ONLY machines can do that!
sooner or later they will decide all for us anyway (because they are the only neutral deciders). and there will still be winners and losers even when the machine can find a ways what makes the majority happy and/or have a better logic to calculate long term consequences from a decision.