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Originally Posted by Arnox
Last week I was contacted via Skype by someone from GFY who was interested in getting reviews written for major paysites.
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Hmm Nope you posted in my thread wanting the work,
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Lets put that right to start with.
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Originally Posted by Arnox
It was an order of less than a dozen reviews on major destinations, such as Brazzers, Digital Playground and Twistys. I told the client that I would have them to him by Friday and delivered them on Friday. The reviews were 500 words and he asked for additional screenshots from inside..
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By Friday then delivering on friday means your a day late in completing the task at hand
I have since learnt its very rare you actually keep to completion dates
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Originally Posted by Arnox
The client paid me on Friday when I delivered the reviews and thanked me. This afternoon, I logged onto Skype and was told by the client that Yoast was reporting negatively with regard to my text, suggesting that it had certain issues. These issues were:
• 52.2% of sentences containing more than 20 words,
• Subheading followed by more than 300 words,
• 11.7% sentences containing more passive voice than recommended,
• Readability being 59.6 on the Flesch Reading Ease test.
I explained to the client that readability within the Yoast tool set isn't always a great way to determine whether or not a review is written well, and that things such as readability levels are mainly to ensure that text can be understood by people who are still developing (i.e. people under the age of 18). I also cited two blog posts from independent services that suggested Yoast's SEO readability guidelines had issues and shouldn't be taken as the be-all and end-all of content writing. Here is source one and here is source two.
Additionally, I went ahead and performed a small test on sites that ranked #1-#5 for a specific paysite + review as the keyword (such as 'Brazzers review'), and found that Yoast also had issues with these texts as well. Here is a screenshot that I sent to the client to confirm these results:
So in essence, my argument is that even IF Yoast is complaining about my text in particular, it's also complaining about hundreds of other reviews that receive millions of hits via Google in traffic every week and that still rank in the top 3 positions on Google for competitive keyword pairings. Thus, the problem likely isn't with the texts themselves, but what Yoast deems to be good writing. |
Firstly these other sites have been around since the beging of time, these are the sites i have to compete against to get a new domain as high as can be, they have a massive head start, for you then to go in half cocked to try and beat them is stupid.
EVERYTHING SHOULD BE DONE TO GET 100% WHERE YOU NEED TO BE NOT HALF ARSED ( Like your reviews
Everything should be done to make sure everything is 100% the ones that are 100% inside my admin, i'm ranked 2nd on google for that search term
The ones that aren't 100% green fall off into page 2 and beyond
So from my own experience All green = A higher listing and this shows true to the fact having #2 on google for that keyword, its my highest listing doing 5/10 sales a month.
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Originally Posted by Arnox
The client is demanding a full refund for the work, or for me to rewrite the reviews so that they comply with Yoast's guidelines.
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The reviews shouldn't of arrived to me in the state that they did but i also should of checked that shit also, but you caught me when playing fortnite hahah
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Originally Posted by Arnox
Now - I think Yoast's guidelines are too simplified for them to be useful, and that when writing reviews, I write for the person on the other end of the screen to read them, not for a robot to tell me whether or not it's good text. Constructing sentences that are compliant with Yoast's guidelines is far too labor-intensive (and not at all useful, even if the results were good), so I'm not going to rewrite them. But I also don't want to refund a client for content that is perfectly good, but that they're unhappy with because it doesn't follow guidelines that they never mentioned I had to follow in the first place.
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You are missing the bigger picture here, webmaster hiring writers to obtain a ROI, My own experience with yoast everything that green gets a higher listing and brings in a ROI
Everything that isn't 100% Green gets you ranked lower
33.3% of the sentences contain more than 20 words, which is more than the recommended maximum of 25%. Try to shorten the sentences.
Bad SEO score 33.3% of the sentences contain passive voice, which is more than the recommended maximum of 10%. Try to use their active counterparts.
Good SEO score The copy scores 73.2 in the Flesch Reading Ease test, which is considered fairly easy to read.
Good SEO score The amount of words following each of the subheadings doesn't exceed the recommended maximum of 300 words, which is great.
Good SEO score None of the paragraphs are too long, which is great.
Good SEO score 33.3% of the sentences contain a transition word or phrase, which is great.
^^^^^^ Google rank 13 for the keyword
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OK SEO score 20% of the sentences contain a transition word or phrase, which is fewer than the recommended minimum of 30%.
Good SEO score The copy scores 77.4 in the Flesch Reading Ease test, which is considered fairly easy to read.
Good SEO score The amount of words following each of the subheadings doesn't exceed the recommended maximum of 300 words, which is great.
Good SEO score None of the paragraphs are too long, which is great.
Good SEO score 22.6% of the sentences contain more than 20 words, which is less than or equal to the recommended maximum of 25%.
Good SEO score 1.8% of the sentences contain passive voice, which is less than or equal to the recommended maximum of 10%.
^^^^^^ Google Ranked #2 for keyword
Same numbers of sites going for the same keyword.
So posted blog experts all you want my own site experience and rankings PROVE that it does matter and to obtain a higher ROI all green is the way to go
Now i should of outlined everything better from the begin, but it was like getting one answers from you over a few days, one reply then disappear for a day.
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Originally Posted by Arnox
What do you guys think? Am I an asshole here for not giving this guy his money back? Should I just refund it and take the hit? Or should I stick to my principles of Yoast being rather useless for judging text and try to explain to him why it's not a problem?
I've had very few refund requests over the years, so I don't come across this type of situation often.
Thoughts? Refund or nah?
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At the end i told you to keep your money and i'll re write the reviews myself, I hire out because i don't have time, my time verus $13 for a review its a no brainer.
My time is more vaulable then $13, BUT i expect everything to be on point and kicking arse so its literally drop and go.
You totally missed the bigger picture instead of trying to out smart me you've lost 200/300 reviews for the year.
Your first reply should of been, shit sorry man let me fix these up abit better for you, because you were already a day late in sending them which you didn't say sorry for.
So you do have deadline issues 100% fact, as a first time customer i would of expected them a day earlier to show that rock this shit. First impression is late and badly done = Fail.
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Originally Posted by Biggie Smalls Web Writing
don't think you should refund it, but the costumer is always right
Spend a couple of minutes fixing the content and that's it
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And that is all it needed