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Originally Posted by plsureking
Thommy 
i still make a good living in porn. i don't do any work outside porn other than the rare friend project every few years.
that means there are at least two people on this board making a living TODAY in this industry.
i personally know at least a hundred other people making a living in porn today.
adapt or die. we've had the same discussion for a decade now. many of us adapted and continue to adapt. many more, like old Paul, died, or were forced into "retirement".
just because you can't figure out how to make money anymore doesn't mean other people aren't making money. that's the dumbest theory you could believe.
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this is exactly the sense of life.
if the world would not change we all would not talk about internet and the goals - this is what paul canīt understand.
and yes there are truly a lot of "old fashioned" webmasters they make much less as 10 years ago. but that proves only one thing: They are not able to understand their market and all they had before was pure luck.
when I started my internet career I was expecting that all I need is HTML and thatīs it.
and you know what? in the first few years that worked !
in the meantime I have learned so much about so many different topics that are important for our biz, that I realized that nobody in this fucking world can be good in all of that.
to be successful today you need a team or the right contacts to people that are 100% in one part where you are only 50%.
if you look back to this good old times we all have been a bunch of idots.
everybody tried to pull everbody in the biz. we helped and welcomed the biggest assholes and losers and shared a cake with people who wanted to take this cake - no matter how much they destroy the market with it.
than, when it came to the point when the boat was full, people became enemies and tried to push the others out. some created alliances for that - other bought everything what they could and others focused on what they are really good. the yesterday men did not like that. they thought it will go on as they were used it.
they forgot that you will be still a loser if you find oil in your garden if you do not have the equipment, the know how and the money to get it out there.
same as you do I know still many webmasters what are since many years in this biz and the only difference from than to now is that they make 10 times more money as before.
and yes - where winners are HAVE TO BE losers. i would say to make 10 times more money as before 6 others went to nowhere. but the sum under the result line is still higher as before when 10 idiots burned traffic to shit. as so as just ONE in that 10 knows how to make gold out of it it is the end of the 9 others.
these are things paul never experienced - he is talking about conversion rates and doe not know shit about traffic targeting.
sure you can end up with a conversion rate lower than 1:1000 if you buy traffic on CPM and the only goal is a 5% CTR.
this have nothing but nothing to do with monetizing traffic - this is KILLING potential customers because they get tired to click a fake ad what promise something what is not behind. this means to provoke people to install adblockers or simply ignore any "promise" given by advertising.
the biggest problem of our industry was that we have been focused only on one product what is an electronic one and everybody with a normal brain knew already 20 years ago that a product what can be endless copied without costs can not have a long term value.
it is the same as I would want to sell you the alphabet and you buy the next comma.
this fact was clear for me already when I started in porn 22 years ago. I knew there will be a time when we can sell it but there will come a time when we have to give it for free to attract people and sell them whatever.
before TV came up - people had no chance to see a movie for free.
so in regards to pauls arguments there should not be movie production anymore today.
but since TV the production of movies went up 10000%.
some of the former cinema owners are certainly still sitting in their old home today and imagine how nice it would have been if TV hadn't come up at all.
Others probably sit on their yachts today and enjoy life because they invested early in this development instead of demonizing them.
and here it's not only about the cinema owners but also about the many new production facilities with all their peripheral industries and suppliers about all the tv stations with millions of employees worldwide - about the millions of jobs created by the production of tv sets alone and to get the possibilities of advertising new products quickly and broadly into the market at all.
paul is trapped in a mouse hole and has always been sitting there.
he is certainly not a bad guy but unfortunately he belongs to those simple cozy people who nature has not put too much far-sightedness into the cradle.
losers don't want to know that they are losers. they will always blame everything and everyone. but especially those who belong to the winners.
this is unfortunately one of the weakest human qualities you will encounter again and again.