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AmeliaG
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Originally Posted by thommy View Post
I doubt that anybody can analyze the correct market size especially when it comes to overlaps.

example: when a game is sold on a porn site is it mainstream or adult revenue ?
in fact it is both.

if a porn member site owner is also the owner or cooperate with his friends "find the cheapest flight site" and puts a link to it in a member are - when this user what comes from there books a flight nobody would ever count it as "porn revenue" but in fact it is.

if you have ever been on a mainstream exhibition and talked to the people there, you are going to find out that MOST of them are making money directly or indirectly from porn traffic.

if you have been on porn exhibitions in the past 2 years and saw that mass of people that offers "make money with blockchain" it has a reason. but the revenues they are generating with porn traffic would never been counted as porn revenues.

and all that will be carried in the whole periphery like hosting, design, programming, SEO and much much more.
most of them are not in a visible connection with the adult industry but all of them make money from porn traffic.

not even penis enlargement (a multi billion dollar niche) counts even remotely to "porn" even if 90 % of sales are generated on porn sites. it will always count in the category health care products or lifetsyle.

with me alone advertise 7 hooker portals . these 7 sell turn ads to their customers and clubs. is the porn turnover ? no - but it is !

i even have advertising customers who advertise their super clean amazon and ebay shops and offers with us and generate sales (otherwise they wouldn't do it). porn sales ? no ! and still a porn network and a porn master earned money because the sales were made by a user who also consumes porn.

let's move on to 3D role-playing games - I have dozens of advertisers for this stuff. But if I look at the manufacturers of these games I won't read a word about porn.

It is nearly the same as the holiday industry. all you can count there are the prices for flights and booked hotels - you will never know how much money the group was spending in restaurants and sight seeing tours.

Businesses with porn are simply easier to realize if you don't have porn on your business card. In the past, we made the mistake of seeing the bait on the hook as our product. Today we see it more and more as the bait that clears the way to a consumer's entire life budget. And this budget is 1000 times bigger than that for porn.

Of course, we still have to be sensitive about it and not overstrain the closed eyes of huge companies. But that so many such eyes are already closed today simply means that we are sitting on a huge group of people who represent an enormous purchasing power. Against this purchasing power calculated porn is a halved fly shit

But on the other hand I think it's good that the world (including some veterans) thinks we don't deserve anything. Let them keep thinking that. That protects us from envy and uncomfortable competition.

Very astute analysis of how a lot of webmasters coming out of adult make a lot of their dough today. In defining the size of the industry, I wouldn't count flight bookings sold via a pay site link, for example, but, for sure, surviving folks are trying to implement this sort of thing in multiple ways and definitely should do so as much as possible.

Super early, like 1999, I did really well for a while up selling credit cards on join pages. Eventually, they kicked me for adult, but it was nice for a bit.

Unless you are counting penis enlargement as the whole field of male urology, it seems unlikely something which can't get repeat customers could be worth quite that much, but, then again, privately held companies and customers who aren't talking, so super hard to accurately estimate. Any insight as to what that sort of thing converts at?
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