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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
The Common Market was the trade deal you are in favour of. The UK signed up to the CM, it was never given a chance to vote on joining the EU. France, Holland, Eire did vote and voted no and the people were ignored. Maybe if there had been a vote in the UK the UK would have voted NO and the EU would have been scrapped. Hard to go ahead when 3 powerful economies back out.
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so than it is just a question of your form of democracy.
if you do not trust the people youīve voted in and donīt believe that they can do the job, than you should switch to something like switzerland.
but i really doubt that brits are that smart to even vote against their own personal interest just because it is wiser.
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Do the non-EU countries who have trade deals with the EU have to abide by EU laws?
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of course they have - this is one of the reasons WHY they try to make common standards for the whole EU because 3rd party countries will be unable to serve 30 different standards.
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So now we are leaving it won't happen!!!
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just imagine what a foreign company will decide when they have to chose to change their production process and standards for a market with 500 million potential cusotmers or to a market with 50 million.
who will get the better deal you think ?
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Will it? Look at the balance of power between nations who contribute and nations who take.
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you should always look on 2 ends. the receivers GDP went up too. and the receivers import today MUCH more from the other EU countries as they did before.
the country you chose to live in is a recipient country. In 2004 the CZ imported a total of 150 billion crowns from the eu. In 2017 it was 350 billion crowns.
you always forget that the money people spend have to come from somewhere.
and this money what is in the circle is ALWAYS the same money.
if you do not give you can not receive - donīt you get this logic ?
you also forget how many multinational companies are located in these recipient countries. 3 times you may guess where their profit distributions will be taxed at the end
and to wich countries GDP it will counted.
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If there was an EU referendum on staying in the EU or dismantling it and reverting to a free trade zone. The overwhelming majority would vote for the free trade zone. The problem is politicians won't give anyone the chance to vote.
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my dear god - donīt you realize that a free trade zone is not a union?
do you think it would make economic sense if the USA consisted of 50 source free trade zones?
one builds a street the the one not and everybody makes a trading deal with all the rest of the world.
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Common Market bureaucrats and politicians took control of the trade agreement between European countries and then without asking or ignoring the people they formed the EU. Which meant not only do you lose the right to strike independent trade deals with non-EU members, you also accept centralist passing laws on your country.
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i know that should ask YOU before as you are an expert in trading and economy.
the point is there WILL be a brexit and in a few years we talk again.
I hope we will have enough space in the rest EU to take all those big companies, banks and skilled workers who are smarter than the ones who voted for the brexit.
nobody in the UK should cry now and just do it.
GB has been granted the highest discounts and more benefits than any other country. the largest share has always been paid by germany and france.
you're welcome to keep this to yourself now and see how you get along.
...but I forgot - you donīt have to care that anyway because you live in the EU and enjoy the prosperity you get from a big trading union.