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Originally Posted by Rochard
What we had under the last administration was working. We had less people coming over, and more of them were being deported.
The Trump administration is throwing more money into the situation and being less effective.
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If previous administrations were working onthe problem, why is it still a problem?
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We have two options here...
The first is having the Border Patrol operate in all areas. Put a Border Patrol office in every county and have them work on a county by county basis. Or, turn the county Sheriff's office into a Federal Agency.
The second is to have the federal government fund the local police departments. Give my local police department an extra million dollars each year so they can hire six more officers, so at any given time we can have one or two officers on duty to handle immigration issues. (Then pay the county jail to detain illegals.)
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Agree, pay more taxes to support the new police.
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I didn't say that at all. I said the Trump administration is being less effective while spending more money.
The Obama administration was being more effective while using less money, and didn't need to arrest people at local schools in front of kids.
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So Trump needs to step up deporting those who got in.
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Illegal immigrants aren't a threat to society or here to harm children.
Also, we don't always arrest law breakers. I had a heavy foot when I was younger and a long list of traffic violations, but I was never arrested.
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Wrong.
https://www.google.com/search?ei=v0c...KeozvM2nhkwill show you why. Then there's the damage they do to the incomes of hard working Americans, your schools, welfare system etc.
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Yes and no.
They shouldn't be able to get a job. In order to get a job they should need to prove they are legally able to work in the US. Here in the US we have the E-Verify system which any employer can use.
You can only get healthcare if you have a job - or if you can afford it.
Children here illegally should not be allowed in the local school system.
Driver's licenses is different. If we do not allow them to get a DL they drive illegally, and if they are driving illegally they have no insurance. This causes huge problems in states where there are large populations of people here illegally, like California, Arizona, and Texas. Our insurance is a lot more expensive too.
As for ICE, it's ineffective. The purpose of ICE is to hunt down criminals who are here illegally. When I say criminals I mean people who have committed murder, robbery, and rape. We don't need a team of six to eight agents in three cars tracking and stalking a mother of three who is here illegally. It's just not cost effective and produces a low number of arrests. It would be much more effective having two Border Patrol agents in one car going to a work place that would typically hire illegals, arrest people in numbers, and shut down the business.
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Truth is they do get jobs and are holding down the wages of Americans. But you did admit there are way to many of them.
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Walls don't work. Most people who come here illegally don't cross through the desert in the middle of the night. The drive through customs. They say "I am here to visit my Aunt" and come across don't leave.
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They do work, you're claiming they don't stop all illegal migration. A claim I never made.
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If it was up to me.... Anyone found in the United State illegally would be arrested and deported immediately. If they are caught in the United States illegally a second time, they go to prison. Two years for the first offense, four years for the second offense, eight years for the third offense. Children do not get thrown in prison, but instead get deported and sent back to their home country. If anyone comes to the United States and is caught here illegally, they are no longer able to become a US citizen - ever. At the same time, you need to have a system in place so people can come here legally. However, they need to do this BEFORE they come into the United States.
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Agree. Trump says the same, so you agree with Trump.
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Also... This asylum bullshit needs to stop. The asylum system was set up so that if someone was being unfairly targeted and persecuted by the government of their country AND if the United States government thought your claim was valid AND the United States thought it would benefit from approving the asylum request.... Then someone could be granted asylum. Saying "I fear local gangs in my home country" is not a valid reason for asylum in the United States. We have gangs in the United States too.
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Agreed.