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Originally Posted by thommy
not really - it is a result of using our brains.
the goal was NEVER to get things done with work. the goal was always reach efficiency with the lowest use of energy.
the robots are also a result of this goal.
you still think too much in the NOW. just let your mind free and imagine it without that burden of work and money.
the worm in the apple didn't plant the apple tree and didn't harvest the apple either. all his work consists of eating it.
you should read about the history of the jews.
to work was prohibited for them in the most cultures.
what they did instead was learning and studying and lending money (as this was allowed).
in my future they could not lend money as nobody needs it.
but everybody could still study and learn. and whatever he will find out is for all.
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most homo sapiens require structure and discipline...they need guidance...they need motivation...they NEED hardship...they NEED a problem...maybe 1 in 10 have sufficient inner drive and determination to do something with their life...the rest just become social media zombies smoking weed and playing video games all day...
look up the "calhoun experiment" with mice...they made an utopia with mice and the mice started acting crazy...same story...mice were not built to live like this...neither were humans or anybody else...IF you take away the #1 thing the being was meant for, you will change the way it behaves...
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Originally Posted by thommy
true - THIS will be the start but not the final.
as soon as everybody have learned that we do not really need money and jobs as we do have machines doing all for us it will go into another direction.
this is the part marx, engels and other communists have missed in their vision.
with the options they had communism never works.
with robots and AI it will - even when it is still a very long way there.
WHO would lose if i am right ? NOBODY ! and this is why it can only become true in a yet far future.
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personal trainers exist because most people lack the discipline and motivation to work out...most homo sapiens simply do not have what it takes...go out on the streets and you will see 10% fit people, 90% not fit...I am being generous with the 10% it is much less...the same applies to work....you say "we can go in to another direction" where people could explore space or do art or whatever...this is false simply because most humans will do nothing but become obese internet zombies...
I love star trek and I used to dream about a world free from bullshit and humans exploring space and free from money...but we are a looooong way away from this and human nature is not what we would like it to be...