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Old 05-09-2019, 08:06 AM  
Bosa
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Why Women Don't Owe Incels Sex

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/cultur...edistribution/

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/politic...on-sex-incels/


"When men start talking about how they will massacre people because women won’t have sex with them...that’s about wanting to control and subjugate women"

"Numerous men seem to feel that having as much sex as Hugh Hefner is an essential part of the American Dream that ought not be denied to them"


Central to the incel ideology is the idea that sex with another person — specifically, penetrative sex with women — isn’t a privilege for men, but a right. Incels talk about sex with "Stacys," their term for attractive women, the way that more reasonable people talk about food, water, and shelter: as a basic necessity for survival. As a thing without which a man will suffer to an unacceptable degree. And they’re not just sad about their failure to sleep with "Stacys," they're angry about it.

After all, the inverse of this idea is that women, in turn, have a duty to provide sex — and that women who don’t have sex with a particular man are doing that man unjust harm.

The idea that men are entitled to sex, and that women owe it to them, was first plucked from the incel community after the Toronto attack by Robin Hanson, an economist at George Mason University, who took to Twitter and to his personal blog to advocate for a "redistribution" of sex. A central claim of incels is that attractive men, whom they call "Chads," sleep with too many women, and that women should be taken from the Chads and given to the incels to make this more fair. "Those w/ less access to sex plausibly suffer similarly to those with low income, & might similarly hope to organize to lobby for redistribution along this axis," Hansen wrote. The rights and desires of women who would be "redistributed" in this scenario aren’t thought of much at all.

The idea that individual men might have a right to sex the way that they have a right to safety and survival was then taken up by Douthat. He wrote that the suffering of incels who can't get laid might one day be seen as a moral obligation for women.
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