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Old 10-22-2019, 07:14 AM  
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Thanks for this post!

Yes I understand, especially the 1000-1001 analogy.

So instead of cams what would you promote? Dick pills? Dating? With dick pills you have a fixed price and with dating recurring memberships and upgrades so I suppose, like paysites, the overall value of a customer can be better determined.
you can believe it or not but the real farseeing advertisers do not care what they promote.
they do not even care if they make profit with it.

modern internet marketing is buying the contact to a user. and try to sell him whatever in the future.

this is why it will never work for an affiliate that do not have the users emailadress or contact data.

there is so much you can make additional revenue - starting from push notifications on the lander over whatsapp groups til emailmarketing.

they do not have the limit of 150 bucks lifetime revenue. they are thinking in high 3 until 4 digit lifetime revenues per signup or sale.

if you want to compete here in the big tier1 markets you will not have a chance because there are already a lot of buyers that do not only have the first product ready, they have the second, third and many more ready and they have the technology.
this is really ONLY to beat with HUGE capital and HUGE know how.

in the tier2 and tier3 markets it is not like this yet (but it will come) - so here you can calculate on lower traffic prices and you are not forced to make more out of a buyer as you can make on the first sale.

but if you would ask me WHAT you can do with what you have I would not give you the advise to go into media buying. I would give you the advise to WORK with media buyers
and change your technology in a way that this is possible.

THIS IS THE REAL niche for people like you because there are many many media buyers that will promote it somehow.

that does not mean that the whole media buyer world will jump on your product but you have to understand how these people are working.

letīs say a media buyer is promoting a penis enlargement offer but he finds out that parts of the traffic he sends there is not converting (maybe the landingpage does not work with mobile IOS or android 4.2.2.2) he will be happy to have an alternative.

2nd thing is that media buyers are working with big data and retargeting.
they are buying traffic from many networks and if a user clicks in network A on banner B and get lead to landingpage C he will get landingpage D when he clicks on banner B from network X again. this can happen multiple times and there is always a last fallback when every other rule is already used.

I think you can see already in this little example that an affiliate program with 15 years old technique is not able to satisfy the technical need that are important for that.

right now I am coaching one of this good old fashioned programs to bring them up to date to do that and find a place and customers in this new world.

the funny part is that programs like NATS already have this features in the newer versions but nobody understand them so they are just used from a very little group that is quite new and saw that membership sites are not a goal for them. they just made other products but used this techniques that are THERE.

it is so funny when i talk to people that are running such sites since decades and they donīt even know what a clickid or a postback on event is.
they mostly stuck when they have to add a new database field.

THIS is what i would do when i would be you.
donīt stop to walk the way you know better than everyone - just change the shoes.
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