Originally Posted by ilnjscb

This why I am asking. I was there. I have spent time there. I ate chicken kiev there. You can't read it in a book.

In Boston, some people really do say "pahk de cah" with the ah sound like "can" for park the car, which most Americans say "park the car" but the above can also be read as the way some English say it, with the ah as "charge" but unvoiced "r".

We're not idiots here people, this is beyond wikipedia. We are asking how native Ukrainians, regardless of their history, ethnicity, linguistic descent, patrimony, or tribe, consider the standard way to say KYIV.