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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
So you're saying the "Amateur models, hot porn stars, housewives, fetishists, etc" side of the business is as popular as the mainstream. Thank you for your insight into how narrow minded you are.
The way you think I define good porn couldn't be more wrong. Yes only good porn makes money, because surfers reject bad porn in large enough numbers to make the production of it pointless. Then there's poor porn where them production of it ensures the producer can't run a decent size business. Mostly where you find site owners unable to make enough money to employ professionals in fields where they lack the skills.
You make a lot of money, why not employ a good content producer to create great content instead of you doing it yourself.
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As for me I have a different business model Paul. I do not shoot myself anymore but prefer to find Producers who have content they are either not using or monetizing or find non-English content that I can promote in the English-speaking territories. This way I keep production costs at zero but my profit is 100%.
Yes it's a different way of doing things BUT I have survived and grown this way for a decade so I am not about to stop now.
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Originally Posted by thommy
completely agree but there is also another thing that paul does not understand:
you can find a few billion of porn consumers out there but only a fraction of them is and was a porn buyer.
entertainment is just setting the kind of entertainment a user wants but it is not really the product. no hollywood production would ever be produced when cinema rights are the only income.
the big mass of money comes by time when they go to free tv where are millions of products are sold through advertising to the mass that will never spend a dollar for cinema.
he also missmatch things like ATTRACTING visitors and MONETIZING those visitors.
every visitor is a consumer, no matter if he likes HQ teens or LQ selfies with ugly fat ones. actually both kind of consumers are consumers for all and everything and you can not even say that one that likes LQ selfies from ugly fat ones would not be able to buy a ferrari.
he is still nailed on the 0,26% of the budget that porn visitors are spending for porn.
he does not see the 99,74 % that nobody touched before.
I do not say that we ever get much from that but if we get just 1-2% of this 99,74 we are talking about BILLIONS that are more in the pot.
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All that you say is true Thommy BUT not all of us have the resources or interests in selling non-porn on porn sites. I do not own a cam company, or a dick pill company. And I am not an affiliate trying to promote these products. Nor am I interested in 60k monthly ad buys to get a 4% return (or even 10% return) selling fake dating memberships or sex video games.
So while you are correct -
everyone is a customer - this does not help those of us who only sell one or two porn products. From your perspective, being essentially a middleman who profits from selling ad space on websites, you welcome all comers with money (as you should).
But for those of us who are porn people (selling porn, shooting porn, etc) your arguments that tubes make great money selling dick pills and video games does not really apply to us. We have two different perspectives here.
But yes, when it comes to "quality porn" that is so subjective it's a joke to discuss what's "quality".