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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd
All that you say is true Thommy BUT not all of us have the resources or interests in selling non-porn on porn sites. I do not own a cam company, or a dick pill company. And I am not an affiliate trying to promote these products. Nor am I interested in 60k monthly ad buys to get a 4% return (or even 10% return) selling fake dating memberships or sex video games.
So while you are correct - everyone is a customer - this does not help those of us who only sell one or two porn products. From your perspective, being essentially a middleman who profits from selling ad space on websites, you welcome all comers with money (as you should).  But for those of us who are porn people (selling porn, shooting porn, etc) your arguments that tubes make great money selling dick pills and video games does not really apply to us. We have two different perspectives here.
But yes, when it comes to "quality porn" that is so subjective it's a joke to discuss what's "quality". |
I think you totally missunderstood my point.
there IS still a market for porn - but it will not feed all of us.
this biz did not SEEM to go down because of tubes or anything.
it was the simple maths of supply and demand.
if you have at the end of the day more people that want to sell porn as people that want to buy porn it will not work.
so the natural thing that happend is that there are still a few that sell porn and can live from it. the others gave the traffic in hands of someone who is able to make money.
these are the advertisers and professionals media buyers,
they do not care where a buyer comes from and they have the skills to lead them even from porn to buy stuff that have nothing to do with the supply and demand I was talking about.
and this will hardly work without the middle men (except you have a site with really TONNS of traffic). trafficbuyers always look for big numbers and only competition between many smart trafficbuyers brings the price for advertising to where itīs value is.
these are the people that test everything on every site and on THEIR RISK. no webmaster is able to test that much and he will also never have this much traffic that he can receive the payouts that a big buyer receives.
I have many many examples from publishers who thought they are doing great when they made 5000-10.000 per month. with competition on this traffic they make usually twice as much and donīt have a risk or spend a lot of time in testing things.
but at the end of the day this ADDITIONAL money is made through porn consumers.
and believe me - with 5 dollars you make with selling porn you canīt buy more than with 5 dollars you made with other products.
THIS is actually what made the market bigger for the same people that lived from porn only before.
I have never said there there are no buyers for porn - but in compare to the size of the biz and in compare to the traffic this biz is generating, porn is just a small part inside a much bigger variation of income sources.
I was just looking today in the revenues of a very big and well known livecam company.
they made in 2001 (when they where unique) the same revenue as they made in 2018.
but in 2018 they had 100ds of big competitors.
so from their point of view the market stuck..
but in the reality it is 100 times more than it was than - just shared through much more market participants.
even under the stupid assumption that paul would be right, the same thing would happen with the HQ market.
if HQ is the key - EVERY BODY would try to do it this way.
but this market is limited and the cake would be shared through too many people.
too few to live and still too much to die.
this is not what I call a biz.