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Old 03-05-2020, 07:19 AM  
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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard View Post
k0nr4d, your smarter than that, what part of No vaccination, No Immunity, No specific treatments, No containment.. are you not getting?

Death rate for the Flu in the USA is currently 14.9 per 100,000 people
https://www.kff.org/other/state-indi...ia-death-rate/

Coronavirus is slightly higher than that currently: 3,308 per 96,739

The flu has an R0 value of about 1.3
Coronavirus has an R0 value of about 2-3

Because most of us have been exposed to the flu before we have some built in immunity against it, we also know that the virus will be less prevalent in summer months... it fades away.

With Coronavirus its a "New" virus we have no idea what happens in summer IT IS NOT A FLU, we also have NO immunity, There's NO specific treatments, and just like Mers and Sars doubtful there will ever be a vaccine and even if we do have a vaccine on paper.. NO one has the capability of producing it in the quantities needed, let alone the needles and crap to administer it. Today they reported a mutation detected, if its not utilising younger humans now for harvesting it certainly will in a mutation or 3.

All we can do is contain it and try and keep the numbers within range of our hospital systems coping.... but to do that you need to know who has it.

If this thing doesn't burn its self out naturally and it may, we have serious problems as a species.
I disagree with the death percentage. It's 3,4% based on deaths vs detected cases. I think that there are thousands upon thousands of un-diagnosed cases, and even if they are doing testing postmortem there are likely still tons of asymptomatic or un-diagnosed mild cases ergo the death % is inflated. If 80% do not require hospitalization (which, realistically again due to asymptomatic or mildness of it, is probably artificially lower), then there is potentially several times the detected cases that just weathered it out at home thinking it was the flu. Hell, myself, wife and kids have had viral pneumonia for the last 2 weeks and we may well have this (we're on the tail end now mostly just coughing).

You are also comparing death rate in USA for influenza vs death rate for Coronavirus in China and Iran - there is a difference in level of care. Regarding mutations, any virus might mutate. There's a different strain of flu every year too.

Given that there are some people are are mild or asymptomatic, there must be SOME immunity to it. I also saw I chart, can't find the link now but it illustrated the spread in countries where it's currently winter vs countries near equator or where it's summer and the spread is substantially lower in countries where it's warmer.

They are going to do quarantines no matter what my opinion of the matter is, but IMHO even if it's deadlier then the flu, it's *vastly* overblown by the media, and I think it will probably stick with us for years to come but burn out a bit when it gets warmer out.

This is just the newest doom porn being pushed by the media. I'm 35, and I can honestly say that I don't recall ANY time in my life where there wasn't some fucking apocalypse looming over my head. 80s was the cold war, 90s was hole in the o-zone layer, 2000s was terrorism, 2010s was war with china or russia, 2020s is going to be plagues. The end of the world has been just around the corner every day of my entire life.
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