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NatalieMojoHost · 09-28-2020, 06:40 AM

We have a serverless offering too. However, for the vast majority of clients, it is not the right option. By and large big parts of the costs for adult sites are storage, bandwidth, and databases.
The cost of modern storage is pretty much the cost: no matter whom you buy from they're buying hard drives which have become highly commoditized, so the cost of storage is about the same everywhere.
When it comes to bandwidth we really are 20x, 30x, even 40x less expensive than Amazon here at Mojo.
When it comes to the cost for running databases, of course in a perfect world the code should be optimized to minimize the database server usage. Unfortunately, many of the things people want their databases to do are computationally expensive (especially in relation to member sites), and many of the software that they're running isn't very well optimized anyway (that's why we work hard with the biggest CMS providers in the adult space to help them in improving their product).
Amazon databases tend to be verrry expensive. It's true that if you can make your problem fit exactly into their server less workload, you may save some money compared to your existing setup. But most of those savings will be due to writing good, new software that takes advantage of the state of the art, and not due to anything related to serverless itself. In fact, in most cases for $X spent on making a project serverless, the same amount of programming work on dedicated servers will still probably be cheaper.
Serverless tends to make the most sense when you have really high click volume for a particular resource and that resource needs to be customized for each user and you can customize it with only a small amount of data. One example where this works well is creating a custom version of an image which contains overlaid text specific to the user and you're doing it 10s of millions of times a month. That's a great use case for serverless. There's some others, but by and large serverless is unlikely to be the right fit for most adult industry use cases.

09-28-2020, 06:40 AM
NatalieMojoHost Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,472	We have a serverless offering too. However, for the vast majority of clients, it is not the right option. By and large big parts of the costs for adult sites are storage, bandwidth, and databases. The cost of modern storage is pretty much the cost: no matter whom you buy from they're buying hard drives which have become highly commoditized, so the cost of storage is about the same everywhere. When it comes to bandwidth we really are 20x, 30x, even 40x less expensive than Amazon here at Mojo. When it comes to the cost for running databases, of course in a perfect world the code should be optimized to minimize the database server usage. Unfortunately, many of the things people want their databases to do are computationally expensive (especially in relation to member sites), and many of the software that they're running isn't very well optimized anyway (that's why we work hard with the biggest CMS providers in the adult space to help them in improving their product). Amazon databases tend to be verrry expensive. It's true that if you can make your problem fit exactly into their server less workload, you may save some money compared to your existing setup. But most of those savings will be due to writing good, new software that takes advantage of the state of the art, and not due to anything related to serverless itself. In fact, in most cases for $X spent on making a project serverless, the same amount of programming work on dedicated servers will still probably be cheaper. Serverless tends to make the most sense when you have really high click volume for a particular resource and that resource needs to be customized for each user and you can customize it with only a small amount of data. One example where this works well is creating a custom version of an image which contains overlaid text specific to the user and you're doing it 10s of millions of times a month. That's a great use case for serverless. There's some others, but by and large serverless is unlikely to be the right fit for most adult industry use cases. __________________ MojoHost.COM \| natalie at mojohost dot com \| Skype natalie.ac \| Telegram @znatalie. Since 1999: 70 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence.