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Originally Posted by LiLi
The piracy issue with this site which is what some models are concerned with (others are more concerned with privacy and having their information leaked, and others are concerned with how this site bypasses geoblocking so their streams are now available in their tiny town they thought they had blocked in their preferences) the piracy issue with this network and especially with established models with a community behind them is once a fan of a model finds this site they are hooked forever. They never again need to purchase content from her or even use google to fish for it, they simply befriend each other on that piracy site and go back day after day to get access to everything the model does because no matter what paywall she sets up for a piece of content, at least 1 out of the bunch will purchase and upload. And they all know this so they pass because they know it's a matter of waiting 30 minutes and finding it there for free. You see what the problem is? Models are losing their communities, not because they are tired of the model, but because this piracy network makes it possible to continue to be a fan and a part of a community but away from the model who is at the center of it, and instead of giving back to her by purchasing her content and being part of her shows, and putting money in her pocket and the pocket of the camsite and of the affiliate who first introduced them to the camsite she works on, instead, they are not spending, keeping their money in their pockets, and clicking on the jerkfest of banners this lowlife is lining our videos with. All financed by Stripchat.
So when one of you sees one of your whales is dropping from your Chaturbate affiliate account stats... instead of raging against models "stealing affiliates" consider it is just as likely that this whale found this piracy network and has decided to stop spending since he can now get everything he wants for free.
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Sure, I'm very well aware of the problem. Marketing cams is the largest part of my biz for a long time. So obviously I keep a close eye on all things which affect it Many of the other guys/girls you are chatting with here are exactly the same. They would like to see the issue gone as much as you.
Your analysis is slightly wrong. The real cam addicts and whales are not the ones lost from sites like these. Those guys pay a lot of money for "personal interacton". They might watch some other guy's private show, but that is not what they want. They spend their own money for their own "dynamic/relationship" with the model.
You/we are losing out for sure from the more casual spenders, who just wanna see flesh and more of a particular model ... and don't give a shit if she's showing it to them or someone else. I'm not saying that's chicken feed. It's not. There are significant losses.
We'll probably never ever stop sharing of private shows. Cam addicts guys have been doing it ever since cams have been around. They did it on forums, free for anyone to download, before this network appeared.
The problem this guy created is scale. Forums mainly shared really popular girls and didn't totally flood out google search. The addicts found them.
This guy built a business model which encouraged guys to share their precious private shows (which otherwise they wouldn't have done openly) behind a veil of "privacy" ... friends only share. As you know, virtually every girl under the sun gets shared and the sites totally swamp SE results.
We've all seen all the ignored DMCAs and takedown URL lists. But nothing changes in google and other SEs. The domains do not get blacklisted. Google serves up users with what they want ... which is free porn.
How his sites manage to withstand a landslide of DMCAs, but never get delisted (like smaller sites would) is the issue.
The bums who have taken up permanent residence at his sites you will mostly never get back. Future spenders are the issue ... And do google et al actually care at all about piracy in adult? Doesn't look like it. They could strangle this guy's profit margins in no time if they wanted.
I don't think they care about 'do no evil' when it comes to adult. But I've been wrong plenty of times in life. Could be again.
Get all you girls together on your cam model forums, write a nice letter signed by a few hundred of you, find the right person to send it to at google and ask for an official answer why they let pirates beyond the reach of DMCAs dominate their search engine results. Even add you might like to include the answer in a news release you'd like to send to various media about the issue.
There's plenty of business media where a bored features writer would like to get his teeth into a juicy "Why does google reward internet pirates so well?" yada yadas.
Try a little girl power. Can't hurt.