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Old 12-22-2021, 04:46 AM  
J. Falcon
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Originally Posted by mopek1 View Post
Then why vaccine passports?

As long as people take the vaccines that work, who cares if an unvaccinated is right next to you?
It's amazing that, after nearly a whole year of vaccinations, people are still asking these questions.

The best reason: it helps slow down the spread.
Another good reason, it keeps healthcare services from being overrun (with idiot antivaxxers).

Your unvaccinated friend is roughly 20 times more likely to give you COVID

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Some people are wondering, why would a vaccinated person care about the vaccine status of another person?

Briefly, it’s because vaccines reduce the probability of getting infected, which reduces the probability of a vaccinated person infecting someone else. And, despite vaccination providing excellent protection against severe disease, a small proportion of vaccinated people still require ICU care. Therefore some vaccinated people may have a strong preference to mix primarily with other vaccinated people.
No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People

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Among this last group, a common refrain I’ve heard to justify their renewed vigilance is that “vaccinated people are just as likely to spread the coronavirus.”

This misunderstanding, born out of confusing statements from public-health authorities and misleading media headlines, is a shame. It is resulting in unnecessary fear among vaccinated people, all the while undermining the public’s understanding of the importance—and effectiveness—of getting vaccinated.

So let me make one thing clear: Vaccinated people are not as likely to spread the coronavirus as the unvaccinated. Even in the United States, where more than half of the population is fully vaccinated, the unvaccinated are responsible for the overwhelming majority of transmission.
Fully vaccinated less likely to pass COVID-19 to others

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One question many people who are fully vaccinated for COVID-19 have is whether they can transmit the virus to someone who isn’t vaccinated.

For this to happen, it would mean the fully vaccinated person was asymptomatic. That term means being infected with the virus without ever knowing it.

While the COVID-19 vaccines have provided an opportunity to slow the spread of the virus, scientists are trying to learn just how much the vaccines can prevent transmission from occurring.

Two women touching elbows with masks

The good news is that data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) shows while COVID-19 infections do occur in fully vaccinated people, these instances appear to be exceptionally rare.

“We do not have conclusive proof. But more and more studies and real-world evidence points to fully vaccinated people, who are not immunocompromised, are less likely to transmit the virus if they become infected,” said Brian Laird, PharmD, manager of Pharmacy Operations at OSF HealthCare Heart of Mary Medical Center in Urbana, Illinois.

Feature Article: If Vaccines Work, Why Do Unvaccinated People Pose a Risk?

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Some people ask the question, “If vaccines work, why do unvaccinated people present a risk to those who have been vaccinated?” Two simple facts contribute to this answer. First: Vaccines aren’t 100 percent effective. So even some people who are vaccinated will still be at risk. Second: The greater the number of unvaccinated people in a community, the more opportunity germs have to spread. This means outbreaks are more difficult to stem and everyone is at greater risk of exposure — including vaccinated people.

This latter concept is known as community immunity, or more commonly, herd immunity. Each member of the community contributes to the collective health of the community because the way a pathogen survives is by finding new people to infect. The fewer susceptible people in a community, the less opportunity the pathogen has to spread.

Interestingly, people often do not think about the fact that there are times when every family needs the protection of their community. New babies and infants may be too young to be vaccinated, and older adults or adults being treated for illnesses may be more susceptible to infections as well.
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