Originally Posted by JayMoyes

How is it we can get these whacked handgun cartridges like the .40 S&W (I'm a child of the 80's that's still new), the AEs, blah, blah, and yet we still don't have a rimless 12,16, or 20 gauge for a box magazine fed scattergun?

They want to be tacticool, but they won't improve the breed of ammo.

And don't tell me it's about price of brass, if we've had an ongoing fad of .50 Browning for 30 years, we can have a rimless shotgun shell.