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Holy shit where the hell have you been?? Welcome back!
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WASSSSUPPPPPPPPP! Hope you're well, dude.
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One thing, yes these doctors Hoffe, McCullough, Malone, Prasad, Olsson, Craig, etc have been outcast from society for their views on Covid vaccines, BUT, they are giving their recommendations based on their studies and learning experiences in the medical field.
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Here's the problem, no one can replicate anything they claim to be true. What we then have are individual people making claims with no way to confirm their claim's validity. That's how medicine and science works, it needs to be able to be replicated. If they did that, they wouldn't be labeled as spreaders of misinformation. But because they fly solo on these often outlandish claims, they get the stick. You can't make claims that you can't back up and share with others so they can run the same tests.
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Everything that goes against the pro-Covid pro-vaccine narrative gets shut down, from MSM, gov, society. Have you watched their interviews or seen their reports (they are VERY active)? Take a look, to me, they seem very knowledgeable and sincere on the topics, while others like Dr Wen,
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That's not correct. Anything that can't be proven, which is usually due to a lack of evidence, gets shot down. Malone can make claims all day, but he can't back them up in any manner that his peers can replicate or confirm. Thus the issue.
Being sincere is one thing, backing up your claims is another.
All of the social media platforms had to bring on teams of medical professionals to identity misinformation because there was so much of it. It was all based on the provable science. Claims alone would often (and still do) get suppressed or removed.
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Dr Fauci have backpedaled or lied time after time.
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The CDC, WHO, world governments, and Fauci totally bungled the messaging on everything. The virus, masks, the vaccines, they fucked up the messaging on them every step of the way, and continue to do so.
That said, saying "Fauci lies" isn't exactly accurate. What he did many times is update his stance based on new information. However, he did bungle a few things in regards to not commenting to his message due to obvious political pressure that has been reported many times. He should have been firm at all times, but he wasn't and people translated that as being a liar and changing his "story."
Using his original message about masks for example. He said they were not necessary for the general public early on. He said that at a time when they didn't yet know that the virus could be spread through asymptomatic spread. Keep in mind, at that point, China wasn't sharing info with anyone about what had just happened there so every nation was on their own to figure out what was going on. As soon as they realized it was spreading through asymptomatic carriers, that is when the mask message went full steam. The information changed based on knowledge.
That said, they still completely ruined the messaging and countless people suffered because of the poor messaging.
Then the fucking President pushed anti-mask messaging and that created chaos. He downplayed Covid almost the entire time, even when he caught it. Suddenly it was all political and masks were a form of suppression. If I had to point the finger at one person in the USA for messing things up, I'd start there and work my way down. The POTUS needs to lead by example, not divide the nation and suggest injecting bleach.
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Question for you DWB, from what you've said it seems like you support forced Covid vaccines, mandates? do you, or not?
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I believe everyone should have a choice. But that also means, business owners have a choice to decide who they want to cater to. Nations should also have a choice on who they let in. Freedom of choice works both ways.
If I own a business, I should not be forced to allow non-vaccinated in (if I don't want to), any more than you should not be forced to take the vaccine.
I'm pro mask because I understand the nuance of how they work. It's the bare minimum we can do to reduce spread and viral load. Plus, it's really no big deal at all to put one on when I go out in public. We have to wear shoes and clothes, a mask never bothered me for a second. Even if me wearing one makes other people feel comfortable, I'm happy to wear it.
I think the jury is still out on the effectiveness of lock downs. There's a lot of mixed information out there that varies from community to community. It seems to have worked well in some areas and not so well in others. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear down the road that the only successful lock down is a hardcore lock down, and half assing it didn't help. Home spread was and is a real issue with it.
Remember when China was welding people into their apartments? That worked. lol They didn't half ass it at all and lived their best lives for two years (while the world was shut down) until covid was eventually imported. Now, as you probably are well aware, it's whack-a-mole with lockdowns there.
All of that said, I've been fucking 3rd world whores and ladyboys in the ass for 20 years. Getting vaccinated wasn't even something I had to think about, shoot me up. :-)
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Most people are not at risk of severe problems from Covid, so hell no, would not inject anyone with it unless they're high risk. Can't believe the hysteria is still here.
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It almost killed me. No commodities. I then had devastating long covid symptoms that lasted for a year. I caught it before the vaccines rolled out. Perhaps if my original infection came after I was vaccinated, it wouldn't have been so bad. At least that's what they say. I'll never know.
Anyway, good to see you're still with us.