this thread went sideways because DVTimes loves to hijack threads and drop 7-10 comments in a row. keeping he/she/they/it on my ignore list makes it a lot easier to read hijacked threads.
relevant tip tho - i'm seeing a lot more of my site owners accept offline or offsite payments - cashapp, venmo, paypal, bitcoin - and add the member manually to the site. so make sure you can add manual members on the platform you choose as a paysite.
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