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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark
Watch this video
The first part is good but if you want to know how to do it, fast-forward to the 5 minute marker. It's excellent and easy for newbies to understand.
No they aren't stupid, they just don't know. They listen to what sales reps tell them, or what sales reps allow them to think.
Of course though, sometimes paying $100 for a VPS or any price for any service isn't necessaily bad IF it frees you up from running your business, AND it is a fair price. $100 for a VPS is of course, nutty.
Another good and fun way to do some things is to do a mix of hosting at a provider, and self-hosting.
For example, you could have your main website at the hosting provider of your choice, and then spin-up servers at Linode.com for other purposes which cost you alot less. You can even host your site and services at your own home, but this is risky for security and reliability reasons. It is good to do to learn, but not recommended if you require 100% reliability.
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Mark, buddy, it's like you just keep saying the same stuff out of disdain that I didn't support one of your GFY posts last year, which makes your replies in threads like this personal and a lot less informative than they could be.
Listen, if someone wants hosting from $5-$20/monthly anywhere in the world, this is not the realm I am referring to. I'm not the solution for that and we never advertised ourselves to be. There's a perfectly valid reason we don't sell solutions in this range- they generate a lot of noise, abuse complaints, chargebacks, and make a support desk busy with communication on accounts that are a loss-leader, even at scale.
There's no reason someone should try hosting from their home. If they can't afford something for the price of a coffee and a donut, we really shouldn't be giving them "serious" business advice.
This idea that a '$100 VPS' is absurd seems completely out of touch with current cloud and VPS technologies and what proper business practices will deliver insofar as performance is concerned. For example, our new VPS platform is faster than everything dedicated (or otherwise) at your "favorite" TMD hosting, by several hundred percent. Benchmarks can easily prove that. You just so sincerely want to be right about everything, that you've ignored all conversations and product offerings that I've had for the last 20 years, very much in spite of my genuine intentions and hard work.
Let's tackle your TMD Hosting, first. If we are comparing apples to apples VPS and dedicated hosting plans, we are ostensibly the same or less cost but providing service on more relevant new technology and with additional configuration options plus with what must be a much more advanced team. When you switch their prices to month-to-month instead of a triannual (3 year) advance payment their Linux VPS with 2 vCPU 4GB RAM becomes $54.99/month with 3TB of bandwidth whereas our 2 vCPU 4GB RAM is $29.88 with 300 Megabit unmetered (75TB+/-). You can get into the nuances of adding cPanel or instead choosing on-demand support and you end up with a total solution cost difference that is negligible, yet ours is faster and includes more transfer, which is pretty relevant for adult projects.
The only reason why web hosts push prepayment with steep discounts is when they're selling to a less qualified audience or are expecting high rates of attrition. We could discuss all of their dedicated server offerings, but they're so irrelevant with the underlying hardware, that it would end up being the case their fastest dedicated server with 16 cores and 32GB of RAM is probably only as fast as a "Medium" or "Large" MojoHost VPS, except with completely irrelevant I/O performance using their HDD or SSD. They're also either cheating cPanel on their dedicated server licensing or just completely moronic and haven't updated their own shopping cart. They have the cPanel cloud/VPS pricing on dedicated servers, so they're either cheating the system or too dumb to realize that their own license cost is nearly $60 per bare metal machine.
You reference Linode. Linode is very respectable, it was acquired by Akamai two years ago. My shopping cart prices are 33% off Linode's on the Premium CPU product, a slower CPU than what we are providing. Our pricing is 20% less than Linode's dedicated CPU product, which is significantly slower than our CPU. Lastly, we are about 20% more than Linode's shared-CPU tier, which of course our CPU choice is dramatically faster than. Except, by comparison to Linode, we provide unlimited bandwidth of 300 megabit, 600 megabit, or 1 gigabit, while they provide only 4-12TB of monthly transfer. Plus, we're using Gen4 NVMe storage, which is faster than what is offered on most of their tiers.
And then there's the fact that I am just sharing comparisons with our everyday "low" shopping cart prices. Nearly everyone approaches Natalie or myself for personalized service and a quote, which always leads to some percentage of additional discount. If you don't want to talk to people and don't value the fact that we are readily available, also here posting on this forum, and that we support the industry in so many ways - then probably we aren't a fit for your business.
There are tens of thousands of hosting resellers and smaller web hosts, so it's easy to find service at any price point and a little bit harder to understand what's going on underneath the hood at various providers. There are only a few hundred companies our size or larger. Bigger isn't always better, but it's also quite rude to not acknowledge what reliability, peace of mind, and an honest sales pitch are really worth. Hosting has always been a buyer-beware situation. At the point when web projects switch from being a hobby to being a livelihood, this is where we seek to meet new customers.
Cheers,
Brad