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Old 07-01-2025, 05:58 AM  
alexthorn
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I think is time to say godbye to ccbill. They have tools to send money other then banks (for example paxum) but they not do this.


I'm having fun because I said this a few weeks ago, but none of you paid attention and cooperated with me in filing a criminal complaint against them. You were still naive and thought that the tunnelers would start paying you. We've already turned off rebills and written emails to members to sign-up in through a different payment gateway. Goodbye!
We are in Europe. We are not in the USA. In order to take any action against them, a larger number of complaints would have to be submitted to the appropriate authority. Which authority? I don’t know for sure, but probably the Arizona Attorney General and the Arizona Department of Financial Institutions. Will they do anything? Probably not if there will be hundrets of complains. There will be few or one.

If you were to submit a complaint to the national prosecutor's office here, the ruling would be negative, with the justification that it falls under civil claims (I went through something similar a few years ago in another case). So you would have to file a civil lawsuit. And again, we're back to the situation where we are here in Europe, and CCBill is based (emphasis on based, as that’s the entity we have a contract with) in the USA.

When I asked ChatGPT about a claim of $10,000, it replied: considering the costs, think carefully whether it's worth it.

So what you wrote is understandable to me, but contrary to appearances, it's not that simple — and probably has zero effectiveness.

As for changing the billing provider, I agree with you. BUT, as you’ve already noticed, we would have to migrate users from one billing platform to another. I went through that back in 2007 when I left Verotel. I lost 60% of my subscribers — and keep in mind those were different, better times. Now, the subscriber loss would likely be much higher.

As an example: we left OnlyFans due to personal rights and image violations committed by OnlyFans against us. We had 1,000 users there. On the new platform, for a long time, there were only 300 — even though everyone knew we had moved from OnlyFans.

That’s why we’re all hesitating about what to do next.

By the way: Today, I received half the money they owe me...

ps. Tell us also to what operator You did changed?
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