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Originally posted by jacker
I probably shouldn't make posts in political threads...but fuck it.
If you read the entire article, even right-wing CNN empathizes with Mahathir a little by the bottom of the page. He is not encouraging or even endorsing violence; he is condemning it. He is faced with bringing a rational message to 1.3 billion people who have been taught by irrational interpretations of a religious book. Sound familiar?
If Mahathir was to support the Western world and Israel, he would succeed in nothing but "betraying" Muslims and breeding terrorism against him in his own country. Understand, thousands of years of extreme teaching and beliefs do not end with a political leader signing his name on a fucking piece of paper. If you take a person with limited education, and try to strip and remove from them the only thing they know, they will react accordingly. Islam stands for so much more than terrorism...it is the foundation of the Muslim society...why don't we get pissed off when the G8 meets and decides which countries pose as economic obstacles?
If you listen to Mahathir in context, his comments are not extreme. He is simply saying that it is important for all Muslims to stand behind each other, not neccessarily because Islam is the way to God, but because Islam stitches together the fabrics of 50 countries and 1.3 billion people. His comments are not a condemnation of Jews (I am Jewish, BTW) for becoming world leaders...he is outraged that his own religion, his own people, are disrespected on a global scale because of extreme actions based on extreme teachings by extreme religious leaders.
Mahathir is saying something to every young Muslim person in the world:
Look, the foundation of our beliefs are sound. However, nobody is ever going to stand for terrorism so stop the fucking terrorism, educate yourself and make a difference in a manner that can be respected by all. It takes a lot of balls to say what he said, not because it pisses off Western leaders, but because it contradicts religious leaders who have manipulated minds for thousands of years.
Now, let's see Dubya stand up and tell the brainwashed epople who elected him that their Book has been misinterpreted...that gay people have the right to live their lives, that our purpose on earth isn't to colonize non-believers, that a green leaf is not the foundation of all that is wrong with the world.
what the fuck do i know...i am a 22 year old NEWFIE quarter jew half breed irishman with enough scottish in me to kill any sense of humor i might have had
James
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you're right kid, you shouldn't post.
Here's what the prime minister said:
1.
"We need guns and rockets, bombs and warplanes, tanks and warships for our defense. But because we are discouraged from learning of science and mathematics as giving us no merit for the afterlife, today we have no capacity to produce our own weapons for our defense. We have to buy our weapons from our detractors and enemies."
Now please, explain why malaysia and or other PEACEFUL muslim countries need guns and rockets, bombs and warplanes, tanks and warships?
Also, please explain who he means by "our detractors and enemies"
2.
"Today we, the whole Muslim ummah (community) is treated with contempt and dishonor. Our religion is denigrated. Our holy places desecrated. Our countries are occupied. Our people starved and killed."
hmmm, in Bosnia when christians were fighting muslims, the US didn't say "Our religion is denigrated. Our holy places desecrated. Our countries are occupied. Our people starved and killed"
we said, the christians are wrong and we're going to put a stop to it.
The muslim scum of this world do not know right from wrong. They only know muslim from un-muslim.
3.
"But is it true that we should do and can do nothing for ourselves? Is it true that 1.3 billion people can exert no power to save themselves from the humiliation and oppression inflicted on them by a much smaller enemy? Is there no other way than to ask our young people to blow themselves up and kill people and invite the massacre of more of our own people?"
ahhhh, can someone explain how 1.3 billion muslims are all being humiliated and oppressed at once and who is doing it?
4.
"We are actually very strong. 1.3 billion people cannot be simply wiped out. The Europeans killed 6 million Jews out of 12 million, but today the Jews rule the world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them."
Think how much easier it would be for muslims to wipe out the jews if those damned Americans weren't on their side.
get it yet sparky? they want to kill jews because they are jews. you go ahead and keep making excuses for savage murderers.
5.
"We are up against a people who think. They survived 2000 years of pogroms not by hitting back but by thinking. They invented Socialism, Communism, human rights and democracy so that persecuting them would appear to be wrong,
Translation: God damn it! if the jews hadn't invented Socialism, Communism, human rights and democracy we muslims could be out there persecuting them
you go on defending these savages right up until the day they kill you.
