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Old 10-23-2003, 05:51 PM  
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Again, she is still a human and not a new species. Even if she had children and hundreds of generations of children after her, that all shaped their bones to grow that way, they would all still be humans. Human anatomy is much deeper than just physical appearance, i am sure you agree. Just because an entire clan of people have hair all over their body and down to their ankles, does not make them a different species, nor will they ever evolve into a new species. Sure it's possible that if a woman and man start creating children that have longer arm bone structure and what not, but underneath the exterior, they are still a human species and will never produce anything other than human species, unless they can alter their DNA and genetic make up as well. All through history, there has NEVER been a case of this happening. Humans may have evolved in their appearance, but there is no proof that we are the product of another species. We may be SIMILIAR to other species, but it's not possible for a species to give life to anything but their own. There's no evidence of it and no matter how hard science tries to force it, it has not been done yet. Maybe in the future it could be possible, but as of now... it hasn't happened naturally or forcefully. So to think humans or any other creature, has evolved from the same cell or from other existing creatures, is unlikely and cannot be proved by either records or fossils, same as creation.

If humans evolved from other species, there would be "halfway" points, such as half human/half apes etc. Like you said, evolution is slow... so therefore, there would be other fossils and archeological finds of remains that would provide evidence of the missing link, but it has never been discovered and I don't believe it ever will be. So ruling out creation would be just as naive as ruling out evolution, because there is no exact proof of either. Faith is not fact, that's why it's hard to prove one's belief, compared to one's findings.

Again, I believe in evolution, as a universe and planet, but not as another species to form another. People produce red hair, blonde hair, black hair, blue eye, brown eye, light skin, dark skin kids... but they are all still of human species, like pit bulls and maltese are still the same species, even though they don't look alike. If humans start having purple and green polka dotted kids with 6 toes and 9 fingers per limb, that would still be another race/ethnicity and not a whole new species.

I understand what you're saying and agree with a lot of it. Each species does have genetic safeguards built in to prevent it from breeding with other species. But we are continualy pushing those boundries just in our short time investigating and experimenting. Yes...there are no kept records of any bizarre instance where the rules of DNA are broken, but we haven't been able to keep records for very long. We couldn't even records pictures or sound 200 years ago. Things will most likely be different going forward.

I do not understand your thinking that there haven't been any mid-way points between ancient primates and humans. Yeah, it's difficult to put all the pieces together. And the whole evolution idea, our research techniques, and dating technologies are all very new. But bit by bit, the gaps are getting filled in. The following ARE all theories..I understand that. But they all show beings that don't exist now, and continue to get closer to our form.



I'm done for now. I'm going to eat a banana and watch the World Series.




First modern Homo-sapien - 30,000 years ago http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/cromagnon.html

Homo sapiens neanderthalensis - 50,000 years ago
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/chapelle.jpg

Early Homo sapiens (archaic) - 250,000-500,000 years ago
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/petralona.jpg

Homo erectus - 1.6 miliion years ago
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/15000.html

Homo habilis - 1.5 to 2 million years ago
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/stw53.jpg
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/1813.html

Australopithecus africanus - 2.5 million years old
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/sts5.jpg
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/taung.jpg

Australopithecus afarensis - 3.2 million years old
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/lucy.html
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