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Originally posted by Webby
Complaceny!
With the vast sums of cash - more than any nation on earth - being dumped into "intellgence" and "defense" I am still amazed there was actually no air cover over places like New York and an incredible lack of, which is now described as "actionable intelligence".
In addition the largest "intelligence agency" in the world did not actually have arabic translators or any significant "feet on the ground". Tho not related, they still did not have "feet on the ground" within Iraq and relied on third party info from UN Inspection Teams.
In the end when 9/11 did happen, we had a nation in a state of hyper-excitement as though they were the first to have experienced terrorism. Take a tip - welcome to the real world! Tho I sure would not wish terrorist acts on anyone.
PS .. I suppose it is pot luck I am alive today - I've felt the blast of a "terrorist" bomb and 30 seconds earlier and I'd have been in the middle of it.
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Originally posted by Big Monkie
Those to blame are
1. All the politicians down through the years who supported and encouraged our totally one sided treatment of israel.
2. All the politicians down through the years who supported and encouraged the cia fucking around with other peoples countries.
3. All the politicians down through the years who supported and encouraged our installation, manipulation and/or support of various dictators and other murderers in the middle east and elsewhere. That includes saddam and osama.
4. Last but not least, all the people who continually voted for all those politicians.
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Two very good posts.
Spending billions on "Inteligence" and what has it prevented? It's not as if 9/11 was the first attack on the US or it's people/military around the world. Just the biggest.
You cannot expect to get involved in politics in other countries without feeling a backlash. When US planes, helicopters and tanks are used to kill Palestinians do not expect to see support from all Muslims.