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CDSmith · 07-13-2001, 09:59 AM

So, let me get all this straight here.....

If I "forget to pay my isp charges" as you say, then the site goes "kaput", so why join, right? -- But by the same token, if you were to be dumb enough to forget to pay your bandwidth bill to your pay host, then YOUR site would go kaput as well, right? Then I'd be forced to remove your site from my listing, thus putting extra work on me, no? Is that fair? Why should I take the chance that YOUR site might not be there tomorrow?....wouldn't it be safer for me to just not list anyone because they "might" not be there tomorrow?

Do you see how ridiculous this sounds?

Next...

I get the feeling that some of you guys are "loving the vehicle and all it's features, but are afraid to get into it because it "might" crash." Whatever.

As I said in my initial posts, this site isn't going anywhere. When it's ready to be moved to some paid hosting, then I'll do it, but it's just getting started, and it's doing fine, AND it's accomplishing what it's supposed to. That is, to help webmasters in need. That seems to be enough for many, if it's not good enough for some, well, oh well. Is it my loss that you don't want to place a small button on your site in support of the greater cause?

Also, your "it's the least you could do for us" comment is uncalled for. It almost sounds as if you think you are doing me a favor by placing the button on your site and sending a few hits in support of the cause, when in fact it is ME that is putting in tons of hours of work on this site in the effort to show some solidarity among adult webmasters everywhere, and it is YOU that reaps the benefits of said efforts. Are you guy's grasping all this?? To say that you refuse to support the cause in the least little way because of cosmetics is just...wrong.

CASE IN POINT: IF you (any of you) should find yourselves in a legal or criminal battle over your websites, I am willing to do the following on your behalf:

A) Start a fundraising campaign to get you some legal assistance. We all know lawyers make all the money in such actions.

B) You will want to have an outlet (avenue) available to tell your side of the story correctly and fairly. I'll not only do this for you, but I'll make sure that dozens of other sites help do the same for you.

C) The quickest death I know for a webmaster under siege is misinformation in the "court of public opinion" and the cops know this all too well. That is why they hold press conferences after they charge you with whatever they can find to charge you with. This site helps you in this area as well, by countering the warped allegations made by the cops and the media (and they can be very warped).

D) Even during times when not much is going on in the world (rare), the site still constantly displays the message that censorship sucks, and that there is a positive movement that is steadily growing to fight those that would dictate what is apporopriate viewing material for all.

E) Finally, this site is an outlet for your frustration should you need it. Nothing gives you a shot of relief during tough times like having a place to go and rant about your accusors, and nothing spells relief like knowing you have a group of fellow webmasters that is on your side when it comes to freedom of online expression. (not even Rolaids)

If all that isn't enough for you, then don't join, it's that simple. As I said, this site isn't about show, it's not about flash and money, and a dot-fucking-com with expensive paid hosting isn't going to make it more efficient. So, in reality, the "least" I can do is to commit to you that, should you need me, I'm there for you, always, and that I'll put in the hours to maintain this site and run it like I do the rest of my sites. So, I should think that the "LEAST" you can do is show a tiny bit of support.

Good luck to you either way bro.
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CD

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07-13-2001, 09:59 AM
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	So, let me get all this straight here..... If I "forget to pay my isp charges" as you say, then the site goes "kaput", so why join, right? -- But by the same token, if you were to be dumb enough to forget to pay your bandwidth bill to your pay host, then YOUR site would go kaput as well, right? Then I'd be forced to remove your site from my listing, thus putting extra work on me, no? Is that fair? Why should I take the chance that YOUR site might not be there tomorrow?....wouldn't it be safer for me to just not list anyone because they "might" not be there tomorrow? Do you see how ridiculous this sounds? Next... I get the feeling that some of you guys are "loving the vehicle and all it's features, but are afraid to get into it because it "might" crash." Whatever. As I said in my initial posts, this site isn't going anywhere. When it's ready to be moved to some paid hosting, then I'll do it, but it's just getting started, and it's doing fine, AND it's accomplishing what it's supposed to. That is, to help webmasters in need. That seems to be enough for many, if it's not good enough for some, well, oh well. Is it my loss that you don't want to place a small button on your site in support of the greater cause? Also, your "it's the least you could do for us" comment is uncalled for. It almost sounds as if you think you are doing me a favor by placing the button on your site and sending a few hits in support of the cause, when in fact it is ME that is putting in tons of hours of work on this site in the effort to show some solidarity among adult webmasters everywhere, and it is YOU that reaps the benefits of said efforts. Are you guy's grasping all this?? To say that you refuse to support the cause in the least little way because of cosmetics is just...wrong. CASE IN POINT: IF you (any of you) should find yourselves in a legal or criminal battle over your websites, I am willing to do the following on your behalf: A) Start a fundraising campaign to get you some legal assistance. We all know lawyers make all the money in such actions. B) You will want to have an outlet (avenue) available to tell your side of the story correctly and fairly. I'll not only do this for you, but I'll make sure that dozens of other sites help do the same for you. C) The quickest death I know for a webmaster under siege is misinformation in the "court of public opinion" and the cops know this all too well. That is why they hold press conferences after they charge you with whatever they can find to charge you with. This site helps you in this area as well, by countering the warped allegations made by the cops and the media (and they can be very warped). D) Even during times when not much is going on in the world (rare), the site still constantly displays the message that censorship sucks, and that there is a positive movement that is steadily growing to fight those that would dictate what is apporopriate viewing material for all. E) Finally, this site is an outlet for your frustration should you need it. Nothing gives you a shot of relief during tough times like having a place to go and rant about your accusors, and nothing spells relief like knowing you have a group of fellow webmasters that is on your side when it comes to freedom of online expression. (not even Rolaids) If all that isn't enough for you, then don't join, it's that simple. As I said, this site isn't about show, it's not about flash and money, and a dot-fucking-com with expensive paid hosting isn't going to make it more efficient. So, in reality, the "least" I can do is to commit to you that, should you need me, I'm there for you, always, and that I'll put in the hours to maintain this site and run it like I do the rest of my sites. So, I should think that the "LEAST" you can do is show a tiny bit of support. Good luck to you either way bro. <font face="Arial">___________ CD * <a href="http://www4.smutserver.com/babes/bgnetwork/submit.html" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#27FFFC">Babe Galleries Network</font></a> < -- submit galleries here * <a href="http://www.oliver-klozov.com/cgi-bin/refer.cgi?ref=cdsmithok" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#CBE6FF">Oliver Klozov: 60% signups, 40% rebills</font></a> +High Quality free content, mthly $$ bonuses * <a href="http://members.home.net/cyberdogs/Anti-Censorship%20Site/" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#FFCCCC">Sites Against Censorship</a><font color="#EDDDDD"> Support us, support your future</font></font>