07-10-2001, 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by Chris R:
There are a bunch of great programmers on the net - I have been amazed at some of the scripts these people just "throw" together.
I don't think most of them realize how good their products are. The guy who makes AXS also makes a great search engine (well pretty darn good) and he says that he works at burgerking. I am not 100% sure he was serious, but I think he was. I know that if he was subcontracting for a company they would pay 10k for it easily and he gives it away for $35 and lets you use it for free with his copyright.
Unfortunately - you need firms many times as some of these programmers (at least the ones I have worked with) are not good with clients.
We worked on a job very similar to a job we were bidding on, but with some differences. When asked if we had done something like that - the programmer was in the room and we lost the account, because he took it literally and just said "no". We tried to explain, but they were already ticked off at something else and we lost the account.
I think the vast majority of the world is incompetent. And that is true no matter what field you are in. Unfortunately, the way a lot of business is done has nothing to do with profits, and most people - even in firms do not realize that.
90% of the timme the people giving you the money want to look good to their boss. It is not their money, nor their bosses money. Find out what they want and give it to them. Does it take 60 seconds for a page to load on dialup? Yes. DO we explain that? Yes. Do they care? No, some of the time - you could make a flashy site and they would be happy.
Will it do well? No, but they are happy - and that is all that matters. You would think people would begin to realize that there is a reason that Amazon, Yahoo, eBay, and the big boys are pretty much plain html on the outside, but they don't.
Just my 2 cents. I agree with pretty much everything you said. I guess it is kind of like acting. There are plenty of good actors and actresses out there, but most of the time - you need a break or need to know someone.
At least that isn't the case with selling porn 
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