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Old 07-25-2001, 04:17 AM  
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Are we killing the business?

I think not.

As the other thread started to become a discussion about using dialers or not but is going towards other billing methods also I though it best to voice my opnion in a new thread:

The Hun's opinion is
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People indeed have to be protected. An honest business will always work best in the long run. People don't mind spending money if they get their money's worth. And that trust has to be built up. Once that has been accomplished I'm sure people will spend way more than 75 USD on-line. Might be over a pretty long time-span. But you can be assured that Exxxotica turned this visitor into the "freeloader" that everybody seems to be so scared off. You're ruining your own business people!!
I do not agree with that.

Face it people Porn is the best selling product online, and since the beginning of time Sex has always been in great demand in one form or another.

Throughout the ages one thing has remained consistant: Porn is expensive.

Example go to a Sexclub order a beer, then go to a regular pub and other that same beer. Notice the price difference?

Now with the comming of the internet, porn has become easier to obtain by those that seek to remain anonymous. also the phenomena "free Porn" arrived which started all the arguing about this topic in the first place.

My take on the matter is that Dialers, Per run programs, exit pops CC billing or whatever is NOT killing the porn industry. What it is killing is the FREE PORN industry.
that resides at the moment.

Face it if they loose the trust of the surfer they will not buy. If they do not buy the free site makes no money on the ads. Thus eventualy Free sites will die, leaving only paysites to remain, be it through a dialer or a CC system.

In turn the surfer will have no more choice then to pay for his/her porn. that in turn will create a new need for free sites which will re-emerge and the game starts all over again.

I see this business as a circle, things long died out years ago I see now uprising again and things that were hot yesterday are slowly fading but I'm sure they will re-emerge in the not so distant future when the need for it is again created.

The only reason IMHO most large TGP's are against dialers etc... is not as they say because they want/need to protect the surfer but to protect their free business, which is fine but then they should be honest about that.

IMHO all free site owners must keep in mind that their "FREE" business is a temporary one, as the adult webmaster of a free site must always be ready to jump on the next "free" bandwagon. For a few years it has been TGP's dominating the "free" scene tomorrow it could be toplists that will reign in the next couple of years.

I allready see toplists re-emerging ready to take over as I know a few that do more then 100k dialy and climbing fast.

Moral to the story is that I can certainly understand The Hun's dislike to dialers as they are one of the factors threathening his business, but so are paysites doing CC billing and trick the member into rebillling, and the so called "free AVS systems" etc...

So for me the bottom line is that TGP owners should stop pointing at dialers and dialer like programs as to blame for all problems, because that simply is not true and in fact even the pay per call dialers are declined by The Hun so there definately is a double standard at work.
An understandable one but a double standard anyway, much like the TGP's using blind links in their gallery listings in order to feed their trades, yet refuse to list galleries containing blind links.

Porn as we know it will never die, but like everything on the Internet Porn will always be subject to change, and I think it is foolish of traffic mongers like The Hun, Al4a etc.. to think just because they get a zillion hits they can direct the way the change is headed because they can't. That is up to the webmasters suplying their content not them.

Ok I'm going to shut da hell up now and give my paws a rest

My 50 cents a minute

Wolfshade


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