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The Hun · 07-25-2001, 10:29 AM

Boneprone... 100% right. You have a good view. Making money is no problem, ripping people off is.

Wolfshade: "But the problem is not TGP's offering free xxx it's TGP's limiting the advertising on galleries and therefor forcing a lot of webmasters in to mor eaggressive means of advertising.". Again, history is proving you wrong. These agressive marketing methods are used for a year now, maybe two. A lot of people on this board made a lot of money before excessive ads or agressive marketing.

Also, if galleries were costing this industry so much money why do almost all sponsors still have an affiliate program. Just stop those. Nobody will make galleries anymore. No more free porn. So I can go back to how it was the day I started my site: link previews of paysites (ok, I have to admit, along with an index or two). Those paysites will see the results and will start building custom galleries. I HAVE BEEN THERE. This is what happened with my site 6 years ago. And you can ask PK AND UNDOUBTLY she'll tell you the same story. Look at my site. Sure, there's quite a lot of content on there. But is the content even CLOSE to a good paysite?! No. It's not. No movies (no high quality ones anyway), no huge series, no life chat. Just pictures. And a whole lot of 'em. But more than enough oppertunities for paysites to make money. Wolfshade, you're making statements here that are already proven wrong by simple facts.

I'm not against dialers. I'm not against advertising. I am against dialers that charge unfair amounts of money. I'm against a paysite that would charge 10 dollars a month when they don't have content...

Recurred billing is no problem, if it's clear to people. And if it's easy for them to cancel. Most paysites get their biggest chunk of their income out of recurring customers. And those customers are happy ones. They like what they see, they are not afraid to sign up for another site if they feel it has good content. ANY paysite owner could confirm this. Ads in a paysite work best. Some people spend hundreds of dollars a month on-line on porn. No problem if they KNOW they're are spending that much. I very highly doubt a 75 dollar dialer-call for 25 minutes was what that surfer was looking for though...

07-25-2001, 10:29 AM
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	Boneprone... 100% right. You have a good view. Making money is no problem, ripping people off is. Wolfshade: "But the problem is not TGP's offering free xxx it's TGP's limiting the advertising on galleries and therefor forcing a lot of webmasters in to mor eaggressive means of advertising.". Again, history is proving you wrong. These agressive marketing methods are used for a year now, maybe two. A lot of people on this board made a lot of money before excessive ads or agressive marketing. Also, if galleries were costing this industry so much money why do almost all sponsors still have an affiliate program. Just stop those. Nobody will make galleries anymore. No more free porn. So I can go back to how it was the day I started my site: link previews of paysites (ok, I have to admit, along with an index or two). Those paysites will see the results and will start building custom galleries. I HAVE BEEN THERE. This is what happened with my site 6 years ago. And you can ask PK AND UNDOUBTLY she'll tell you the same story. Look at my site. Sure, there's quite a lot of content on there. But is the content even CLOSE to a good paysite?! No. It's not. No movies (no high quality ones anyway), no huge series, no life chat. Just pictures. And a whole lot of 'em. But more than enough oppertunities for paysites to make money. Wolfshade, you're making statements here that are already proven wrong by simple facts. I'm not against dialers. I'm not against advertising. I am against dialers that charge unfair amounts of money. I'm against a paysite that would charge 10 dollars a month when they don't have content... Recurred billing is no problem, if it's clear to people. And if it's easy for them to cancel. Most paysites get their biggest chunk of their income out of recurring customers. And those customers are happy ones. They like what they see, they are not afraid to sign up for another site if they feel it has good content. ANY paysite owner could confirm this. Ads in a paysite work best. Some people spend hundreds of dollars a month on-line on porn. No problem if they KNOW they're are spending that much. I very highly doubt a 75 dollar dialer-call for 25 minutes was what that surfer was looking for though...