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Tam · 07-25-2001, 10:35 AM

Ok I'll be the nitwit to stand up and say I read the MS Disclaimer.... I read ALL disclaimers.... if you've ever been near me when I am setting up a new program, it takes me forever because I always read those damn things. I do it with everything I buy anywhere. LOL

Hun.. let me just say this straight up before I go any further....... I admire your convictions and your steadfast beliefs and the fact that you don't change your views or opinions because of anyone or anything. That is a very admirable trait in anyone, and I love ya for it. So don't think for one minute that I am bashing you or saying you are wrong..... one is never wrong for thier beliefs and the ability to stand up for them.

Ok having said this, and I have some pretty strong beliefs on this as well, and I am not going to be swayed. I used to feel the same way you did, babe.... I hated the damn things and nothing or no one was about to change my mind for no amount of money. BUT I worked and worked and sweated and worked even harder and no matter what I did, all I was doing was giving this porn away and not making a damn dime off of it. I am not as big as you so I can't sell adspace or be happy with 1 cent from every surfer who visits my site, if I did that, I'd still be unable to pay my bills with just my sites alone...... I don't have near the traffic on ANY of my sites combined to do that. SOOOO, I have to make it where I can so I can pay my bills.

I don't market things as free like some if they aren't indeed free..... I don't post the costs no, but neither do you, I'd be willing to bet...... It's not our job to tell them how much it costs, it's theirs to ask how much it is going to cost them. I don't walk into a store and just buy something without first asking how much it costs... if I do then this is my own stupidity and not the stores, right?

Neither do I hide behind my disclaimer..... I give them the tools, if they choose not to use these tools then how am I at fault for their not using them? I can't be all things to all people...... however, I don't lie and cheat them either...... I tried to run a cj site once and I felt bad about the popups because I hate the damn things myself so I shut it down.

I totally believe and agree that we have to take some responsibility, but at what point does THEIR responsibility come into this? They are adults, and if they aren't then they have parents who are and it's that parent's responsibility to take in teaching their kids right from wrong..... am I right here?

If everyone that had a product to sell worried about the buyer then no one would ever make a dime...... and I sincerely believe this.... we can take responsibility only so far and the rest is up to the buyer here...... I think it's called Buyer Beware......

That guy that paid the $75 for the 25 minutes of pleasure? No one has asked him if he was ok with it...... maybe he was, who knows? Or maybe he wasn't!! At any rate, it was HIS choice to make, not ours. We make our own choices in life and who am I to tell him his choices are right or wrong, just it is not my place to tell you that the choices you yourself make are wrong. At the same I make my own choices. I choose to sell dialers, you don't. It's all cool, I respect you for your decisions not to and I would hope you respect my decisions to sell them.

Yeah yeah yeah.... I am shutting up now.

Tam

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07-25-2001, 10:35 AM
Tam Rude Bitch Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: In your face Posts: 8,492	Ok I'll be the nitwit to stand up and say I read the MS Disclaimer.... I read ALL disclaimers.... if you've ever been near me when I am setting up a new program, it takes me forever because I always read those damn things. I do it with everything I buy anywhere. LOL Hun.. let me just say this straight up before I go any further....... I admire your convictions and your steadfast beliefs and the fact that you don't change your views or opinions because of anyone or anything. That is a very admirable trait in anyone, and I love ya for it. So don't think for one minute that I am bashing you or saying you are wrong..... one is never wrong for thier beliefs and the ability to stand up for them. Ok having said this, and I have some pretty strong beliefs on this as well, and I am not going to be swayed. I used to feel the same way you did, babe.... I hated the damn things and nothing or no one was about to change my mind for no amount of money. BUT I worked and worked and sweated and worked even harder and no matter what I did, all I was doing was giving this porn away and not making a damn dime off of it. I am not as big as you so I can't sell adspace or be happy with 1 cent from every surfer who visits my site, if I did that, I'd still be unable to pay my bills with just my sites alone...... I don't have near the traffic on ANY of my sites combined to do that. SOOOO, I have to make it where I can so I can pay my bills. I don't market things as free like some if they aren't indeed free..... I don't post the costs no, but neither do you, I'd be willing to bet...... It's not our job to tell them how much it costs, it's theirs to ask how much it is going to cost them. I don't walk into a store and just buy something without first asking how much it costs... if I do then this is my own stupidity and not the stores, right? Neither do I hide behind my disclaimer..... I give them the tools, if they choose not to use these tools then how am I at fault for their not using them? I can't be all things to all people...... however, I don't lie and cheat them either...... I tried to run a cj site once and I felt bad about the popups because I hate the damn things myself so I shut it down. I totally believe and agree that we have to take some responsibility, but at what point does THEIR responsibility come into this? They are adults, and if they aren't then they have parents who are and it's that parent's responsibility to take in teaching their kids right from wrong..... am I right here? If everyone that had a product to sell worried about the buyer then no one would ever make a dime...... and I sincerely believe this.... we can take responsibility only so far and the rest is up to the buyer here...... I think it's called Buyer Beware...... That guy that paid the $75 for the 25 minutes of pleasure? No one has asked him if he was ok with it...... maybe he was, who knows? Or maybe he wasn't!! At any rate, it was HIS choice to make, not ours. We make our own choices in life and who am I to tell him his choices are right or wrong, just it is not my place to tell you that the choices you yourself make are wrong. At the same I make my own choices. I choose to sell dialers, you don't. It's all cool, I respect you for your decisions not to and I would hope you respect my decisions to sell them. Yeah yeah yeah.... I am shutting up now. Tam ------------------ May the Force Be With YOU!! Up to $0.80 a minute!!Also taking broker apps! You too can be Vectorized!!