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Heinz · 09-28-2001, 10:38 AM

CD, I was writing about 2 groups of ppl: "normal" and "sick".
1. Even we normals can be manipulated. That's the reason why every dictator tries to controll all medias and all schools. If you tell the people often enough that humans with another skin color or another nose form are worthless shit and should be killed as soon as possible, than finaly you will have people who believe this shit.
And most of us are doing the same the whole day: we try to manipulate people to click on a link or to buy a product. That's the real thing in advertising: not information about a new product, but manipulation. An example for a successful manipulation are Pepsi and Coke. We all have seen the vids with people in a blind test: these people claimed that they can recognize Pepsi and Coke by the taste, they were 100% sure. But they could not in a blind test, because there are no differences in the taste.
2. And that is about "normal people". The discussions how free a human is in his decisions is one of the oldest of the world. But all parties in this discussion agree in one point: there are ppl who are not free.
One group are childrens, the others are addicts and psychos.
I was talking about psychos, they are abolutly not free. You can manipulate them intentinaly, but you can manipulate them by accidental too. And showing rape fantasies to a psycho is a manipulation, you create or you strenghten the wish for a real rape.
3. Something completly different are pornography and violence presented to normal ppl. In most cases, they create a kind of relieve. I remember some years ago, when I had a shit day and played two hours doom or quake: after 2000 killed monsters I was feeling better.
And I'm sure (I don't have seen a statistic about the following): a country where normal pornography is not allowed has more real rapes and attacks on women or childs or gays as a liberal country where pornography is allowed. And you know the countries where sex or nudity are a crime: these countries are the most violent countries at all (this has nothing to do with the islam, living under Savanorola or under the most catholic majestics in Spain was not funny at all).
4. And something completly different are these strange stories when conservatives politicans and mass medias and lawyers of murders are starting their campaigns against directors or producers because they dislike the politic ideas of these ppl. There are some more cases, but I can remember "natural born killers" and "friday the 13th". And here you are absolutly right, CD: it's nothing else but censorship and repressions.
5. And brainless, don't bother to reply if you didn't read the post you want to reply too.

09-28-2001, 10:38 AM
Heinz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Legoland Posts: 95	CD, I was writing about 2 groups of ppl: "normal" and "sick". 1. Even we normals can be manipulated. That's the reason why every dictator tries to controll all medias and all schools. If you tell the people often enough that humans with another skin color or another nose form are worthless shit and should be killed as soon as possible, than finaly you will have people who believe this shit. And most of us are doing the same the whole day: we try to manipulate people to click on a link or to buy a product. That's the real thing in advertising: not information about a new product, but manipulation. An example for a successful manipulation are Pepsi and Coke. We all have seen the vids with people in a blind test: these people claimed that they can recognize Pepsi and Coke by the taste, they were 100% sure. But they could not in a blind test, because there are no differences in the taste. 2. And that is about "normal people". The discussions how free a human is in his decisions is one of the oldest of the world. But all parties in this discussion agree in one point: there are ppl who are not free. One group are childrens, the others are addicts and psychos. I was talking about psychos, they are abolutly not free. You can manipulate them intentinaly, but you can manipulate them by accidental too. And showing rape fantasies to a psycho is a manipulation, you create or you strenghten the wish for a real rape. 3. Something completly different are pornography and violence presented to normal ppl. In most cases, they create a kind of relieve. I remember some years ago, when I had a shit day and played two hours doom or quake: after 2000 killed monsters I was feeling better. And I'm sure (I don't have seen a statistic about the following): a country where normal pornography is not allowed has more real rapes and attacks on women or childs or gays as a liberal country where pornography is allowed. And you know the countries where sex or nudity are a crime: these countries are the most violent countries at all (this has nothing to do with the islam, living under Savanorola or under the most catholic majestics in Spain was not funny at all). 4. And something completly different are these strange stories when conservatives politicans and mass medias and lawyers of murders are starting their campaigns against directors or producers because they dislike the politic ideas of these ppl. There are some more cases, but I can remember "natural born killers" and "friday the 13th". And here you are absolutly right, CD: it's nothing else but censorship and repressions. 5. And brainless, don't bother to reply if you didn't read the post you want to reply too.