First a short resume what the post was about
: it was about the effect of rape fantasies to a certain group of people, not about the effect to me or to you. I call these ppl psychos, other people give them other names. These ppl have all prerequisites to become a sadistic murder. Often it is the simple case of good luck or bad luck what they will do: do they go home as usualy or do they start their first attack. There are at least 2 cases recorded with bad luck: the german serial murder and rapist Heinrich Pommerenke and the english vampire John George Haigh. Pommerenke saw a movie, and suddenly he knew that the women are the source of evil and that he had to punish and kill them (it was not a rape movie but the Ten Commandments

). Haigh has his first vision of slaughtering and blood drinking - in a church. It happend in one moment to the next that they crossed the border. There are enough sickos around, and there is no need to give them the chance to cross the border.
Really ridicilous are the opinions about manipulations. That is exactly what most of us are doing. It never happend that a surfer entered your site with the clear idea: I need more informations about the best teen site for 29,95 with 70,000 pics and 100,000 vids. You or We are telling him that he needs this.
We manipulate and we get manipulated. But you can't manipulate a normal person as far as a child or a mental sick person. You can manipulate a child in every direction you want (it's called education), and if you find the button by a schizophrene you need only to click to manipulate in one direction (not in every). But you can't manipulate a normal adult in a completly different direction. You can not sell a teen site to a gay, you can not manipulate a police officer with a strong opposition to certain movies that the officer will try to realise these movies.
That is the point: normal vs sick. That's the point why the canadian study doesn't show negative effects - there are no effects for normal ppl. And that's the point why your outlet modell doesn't work. Normal porn has this effect for normal ppl: they calming down. Psychos don't calm down, they get no satisfaction, the pressure doesn't drop down but increases. And that's the point concerning violence in the news or in a movie: I don't masturbate when I see pics of the victims and I don't masturbate when I see Bruce Willis killing some criminals. And you don't do this too.
And there is another big misunderstanding: there are pornography and sex. And there is rape. And rape has nothing to do with sex. It's not a kind of sexuality with some aggressions, it's pure aggression without sexual lust.
And the bottom line is: if rape fantasy is ok, is kiddyporn fantasy ok too?
And the rest is bullshit. Plain and simple. Every dictatur trys to get all mass media and all education institutions, so they have the medium for hate speaches.It started with Goebbels and it didn't stop with Saddam or Khomeni.
And Mika and CoreDump: let me know when you will be 18, if I have time I will show you than what adult entertainment means.
And the truth about the great imperalistic Pepsi/Coca conspiration: tomorrow.
And before I write more sentences starting with "And": good night.