Donny

The resolution:

DonovanPhillips (02:28 PM) :
Are you there? I talked to Todd.
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FletchCore (02:29 PM) :
Hey just walked in with lunch, sitting down to eat and got your message, so what happened?

FletchCore (02:29 PM) :
what did he say?

FletchCore (02:31 PM) :
i really do not care what your old school friends think, Donny we ALL HAVE FRIENDS.

FletchCore (02:31 PM) :
Mine spoke aloud on the boards. period.

DonovanPhillips (02:31 PM) :
He said: "first of all, what did he copyright? The tables? Because none of his graphics were used". The he said, "secondly, going onto the boards is not a good way to get me to meet him halfway." And then he asked "who put the 'copyright 2004 kinkychloe.com on that? you or him".

DonovanPhillips (02:31 PM) :
and I told him the truth: you did.

FletchCore (02:31 PM) :
and

DonovanPhillips (02:32 PM) :
And he confirmed what I'd thought, that he also considered my purchase to have been for exclusive rights.

FletchCore (02:32 PM) :
okay so how will it be resolved?

DonovanPhillips (02:33 PM) :
He told me that if you'd like to talk to him that would be fine. But that he doesn't see how I can call you a friend if you go to the boards without talking to me.

FletchCore (02:34 PM) :
What does this have to do with the resolve? I care not to speak to him, I am going through you.

FletchCore (02:34 PM) :
I didnt do ANY BUSINESS with him, i dealt with you, YOU are his partner, not me.

FletchCore (02:34 PM) :
If I have to deal with him it will not be on a friendly level, simple, tell him if he needs to tell me something email me but I have no need to talk to him. Facts are facts, simple

FletchCore (02:35 PM) :
If he is not going to play it cool I have no reason to negotiate. I stated my stand, you can take care of this.

DonovanPhillips (02:35 PM) :
He feels he has no need to contact you, but said you can contact him.

FletchCore (02:35 PM) :
So he is not going to anything????? Is this what you are saying, simple YES OR NO????

FletchCore (02:36 PM) :
this can be handled so easily yet you guys want to play with me. I do not get it

FletchCore (02:36 PM) :
now youre trying to hold board shit over me like i feel threatened? Like i fucked u0???

FletchCore (02:36 PM) :
You knew about it and didnt give a shit, you know damn well you werent going to tell me anything about the copies.

FletchCore (02:36 PM) :
yes or no Donny, is anything going to happen, I need to know.

DonovanPhillips (02:36 PM) :
Fletch... his point is that the designs are so different that even if I didn't buy the rights, you wouldn't have a claim.

FletchCore (02:37 PM) :
His opinion is wrong, so be it.

FletchCore (02:37 PM) :
I hope the site designs will be worth the repucussions

DonovanPhillips (02:37 PM) :
Page 1: only the tables are the same. All graphics are different.

Page 2 and beyond... nothing is similar.

FletchCore (02:37 PM) :
you had this in your hand and you chose to totally fuck me.

FletchCore (02:38 PM) :
obviously neither one of you has any respect for me, my work or anything and this has been a scam. You people have no concept of design, of "work" and you think you can stomp on my livelihood???

FletchCore (02:38 PM) :
i cannot believe you are telling me, I think you decided to partner up with me straight to use me for board persona.

FletchCore (02:38 PM) :
when will you make your goodbye post?

DonovanPhillips (02:39 PM) :
If I was trying to stomp on your livelihood I wouldn't have ever given you a percentage of the NCG tour.

FletchCore (02:39 PM) :
You have stomped on me for months now.

DonovanPhillips (02:39 PM) :
I will likely not leave the boards. This is not resolved yet.

FletchCore (02:39 PM) :
You do NOT know how much work I turned away to work for shit for you.

FletchCore (02:39 PM) :
I could have done other things instead

FletchCore (02:39 PM) :
And now in the end im left holding nothing from you,

FletchCore (02:40 PM) :
you got tours and promo and have the audacity to complain to me about this shit????

DonovanPhillips (02:40 PM) :
How did I complain?

FletchCore (02:40 PM) :
You are right, is not resolved, and every letter i type on icq is a waste of time

DonovanPhillips (02:40 PM) :
I paid you, plus gave you a percentage.

FletchCore (02:40 PM) :
you and your partner made the choice.

FletchCore (02:40 PM) :
Expect DMCAs and papers Donny, thanks you and good bye

DonovanPhillips (02:41 PM) :
You wanted to know the conversation. You blew up before you and I could talk between US. Good bye it is.

DonovanPhillips (02:41 PM) :
I guess.

FletchCore (02:41 PM) :
No, you told me off, you told me you and he didnt not want to resolve it. you chose not me.

DonovanPhillips (02:41 PM) :
Since he is unwilling to budge, the next step is you and me. But if you want to just go to the boards, so be it.

DonovanPhillips (02:41 PM) :
Let's take it there.

FletchCore (02:41 PM) :
No, why dont you take care of me then?

FletchCore (02:42 PM) :
Your friend is worth that much, pay me off?

FletchCore (02:42 PM) :
I rather not go boards but dont tell me to fuck off about this Im not budging

DonovanPhillips (02:42 PM) :
He put those tours up last week as a test. If they do well, he plans to keep them. If not, he plans to replace them with something else.

DonovanPhillips (02:43 PM) :
The stuff I'm telling you now is just information relayed from my conversation.

FletchCore (02:43 PM) :
I dont care.

DonovanPhillips (02:43 PM) :
After it's all out, you and I can discuss how to deal with it from there.

FletchCore (02:43 PM) :
you will either take care of me or you both will be dealt with

DonovanPhillips (02:43 PM) :
You don't care? so you want to make irrational decisions based on PART of the information?

FletchCore (02:43 PM) :
you can square away with him after like Dean Capture said, you know thats the right thing.

FletchCore (02:44 PM) :
No, all i really give a fuck about is you, a guy i was doing business with is reponsible for a bunch of replications of sites i design for him and only got paid and FCKED out of a deal. you owe me mroe than just this bullshit runaround

FletchCore (02:44 PM) :
you take care of me, my mouth is closed, all is good see you in hell, i care not

FletchCore (02:44 PM) :
but you seem to want to talk more than deal with it.

FletchCore (02:44 PM) :
you brag about your money but you cant take care of me? its all bullshit, its all greed

FletchCore (02:45 PM) :
this fucking problem could be solved in no time, you guys want to test the tours and "see if you want to keep them?" gimme a break,

DonovanPhillips (02:45 PM) :
Talking is part of reaching an end.

FletchCore (02:45 PM) :
You just admitted you guys are testing the tours with my design, you owe me, period.

DonovanPhillips (02:46 PM) :
Fletch, my partner does not think it's your design.

FletchCore (02:46 PM) :
like its some trial or something?

FletchCore (02:46 PM) :
Then you need to either take care of me and forget about it, or he needs to change his sites

DonovanPhillips (02:46 PM) :
Page 1: tables are very similar. fonts are similar. Nothing else is similar.
Page 2: everything is completely different.

FletchCore (02:46 PM) :
where did he get the idea for the layout? you and he do not know anything about copyright. if he used my design as a example he is still stealing

FletchCore (02:47 PM) :
bottom line is, did I even upload a zip for you??? Did I even give you the PSD files?? the original layout is and has been on my server. You downloaded it without even getting a zip, so technically I never even gave it to you. You do not want to get technical.

DonovanPhillips (02:47 PM) :
You think you deserve full price on 9 sites because the tables on page 1 are similar? Is that the case?

FletchCore (02:47 PM) :
Look, i dont feel like geting into all this.

FletchCore (02:47 PM) :
You can either handle like a man or a crook.

FletchCore (02:47 PM) :
You choose

FletchCore (02:48 PM) :
Then what is your offer???

DonovanPhillips (02:48 PM) :
What do you think is fair? Consider the facts. It is a TABLE. It is NOT a copy of a DESIGN>

FletchCore (02:48 PM) :
You are missing the point, the ENTIRE layout is mine. What were they looking at when designing? My tour, GUILTY

DonovanPhillips (02:49 PM) :
What was copied? A table at most.

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