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FletchCore (02:49 PM) :
The design is considered a body of "work" its copy, its html, its code, its graphics, all MINE
DonovanPhillips (02:49 PM) :
I'm asking you what you feel is a fair price for a table?
DonovanPhillips (02:49 PM) :
I don't think it's worth $4,500.
FletchCore (02:49 PM) :
we are not negotiating about tables, you can either be a man or crook, seems you are chosing slowly but surely.
FletchCore (02:50 PM) :
i put off that much work working on shit for you
DonovanPhillips (02:50 PM) :
Okay... take it to the boards. You are being entirely unreasonable.
FletchCore (02:50 PM) :
well whatn is your offer?
FletchCore (02:50 PM) :
you want me to make up an offer?? no, you call it, ill accept or not. simple
FletchCore (02:50 PM) :
i will be reasonable.
DonovanPhillips (02:51 PM) :
I'm thinking.
DonovanPhillips (02:52 PM) :
Hold on one second. I'm going to call someone for an opinion.
FletchCore (02:52 PM) :
i really wish youd just be real instead of trying to please other people aside from me which is who you should be
FletchCore (02:53 PM) :
im not a fucking criminal, im not a crook. you must admit that I have done nothing but be creative and eager about these projects
FletchCore (02:53 PM) :
i even STOPPED accepting tours from other people for you man.
DonovanPhillips (02:53 PM) :
I now need an opinion. I'm not operating on emotion or good will with you anymore. Now it's business. And there will be no more between us after this. I need to know what 9 tables are worth so I'm going to ask someone I trust.
FletchCore (02:53 PM) :
you HAVe to realize my angle, this fucking broke man,
FletchCore (02:54 PM) :
you rent really paying for tables Donny, you are paying for copying MY COPYRIGHT DESIGN
FletchCore (02:54 PM) :
you do not have legal right to allow copies, its simple
DonovanPhillips (02:54 PM) :
My good will ended with you end to professionalism. You took this to the boards without contacting ANYONE.
DonovanPhillips (02:54 PM) :
That is SO unprofessional.
FletchCore (02:55 PM) :
youre trying to call my work nothing but crap tables? you are insulting me while trying to negotiate, im unprofessional?
DonovanPhillips (02:55 PM) :
It was very unprofessional to take this to the boards, then threaten me.
FletchCore (02:55 PM) :
you can handle it, please why dont you,
FletchCore (02:55 PM) :
the unprofessional part is the entire situation
FletchCore (02:56 PM) :
so offer
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DonovanPhillips (02:56 PM) :
I'm going to handle it. Professionally. By getting an experts opinion. I'm having the designers that have the office next to me come over to give me an opinion.
FletchCore (02:56 PM) :
please get back to me when you can.
DonovanPhillips (02:56 PM) :
The do graphic and web design here in town and for companies including IBM.
FletchCore (02:56 PM) :
the grief and sttress this is causing me, and the clients I turned away for you is making me sick to my stomach DOnny.
FletchCore (02:57 PM) :
I really took you for more than that.
DonovanPhillips (02:57 PM) :
I'll be paying them for their expert opinion on this matter.
FletchCore (02:57 PM) :
Ill be waiting, simply get their opinion and hit me with the offer, show them all the sites and say you copied the design LAYOUT, not just tables.
DonovanPhillips (02:58 PM) :
I will be very honest with them.
FletchCore (02:58 PM) :
I have to go, I have clients that are following this and are sad to see this happen, you wont believe the support I have gotten.
DonovanPhillips (02:58 PM) :
You wouldn't believe the same support I've gotten.
FletchCore (02:58 PM) :
emails to deal with and clients to chat with, just hit me with offer
FletchCore (02:58 PM) :
Public support is the best ';-)
DonovanPhillips (03:00 PM) :
They'll be coming to my office in about an hour. I should have an offer for you in two hours.
DonovanPhillips (03:31 PM) :
I go to talk to them early. I went to their office. Just got back.
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DonovanPhillips (03:31 PM) :
They are literally right next door. It didn't take long at all. About 20 minutes total.
FletchCore (03:32 PM) :
and?
DonovanPhillips (03:34 PM) :
The very short, condensed version (again, these guys do incredible stuff for places like IBM - which is one of their clients:
They said you no legal rights in this case. I explained that I didn't really care about the legality, I just wanted to do what's right. They said that if I
REALLY wanted to compensate him, they wouldn't pay more than $NUMBER DELETED AT FLETCH'S REQUEST to $NUMBER DELETED
AT FLETCH'S REQUEST per site.
FletchCore (03:34 PM) :
So do you want to compensate me?
DonovanPhillips (03:34 PM) :
Yes, I do.
DonovanPhillips (03:34 PM) :
$NUMBER DELETED AT FLETCH'S REQUEST
FletchCore (03:34 PM) :
What is your offer then?
FletchCore (03:34 PM) :
For principle $NUMBER DELETED AT FLETCH'S REQUEST
DonovanPhillips (03:34 PM) :
I'm taking their high number.
DonovanPhillips (03:34 PM) :
Okay, $NUMBER DELETED AT FLETCH'S REQUEST
FletchCore (03:35 PM) :
FIne, done, lets put this shit behind us and be on our way Donny.
DonovanPhillips (03:35 PM) :
By check, with a memo releasing further liability on the check.
FletchCore (03:35 PM) :
that is fine.
FletchCore (03:35 PM) :
of course
DonovanPhillips (03:35 PM) :
Who do I make the check out to and where do I send it?
DonovanPhillips (03:35 PM) :
I have your address, but don't know if you want it made out to you or your girl.
FletchCore (03:36 PM) :
PERSONAL NAME, ADDRESS INFO DELETED AT FLETCH'S REQUEST
DonovanPhillips (03:36 PM) :
Cool. I am loading the printer with a blank check right now.
FletchCore (03:36 PM) :
Ill sign whatever and mail it back. You have my word on this,
FletchCore (03:36 PM) :
Can we please keep amounts and all personal info from the boards?
DonovanPhillips (03:36 PM) :
The cancelled check will be all the signed docs I need, because of the memo.
FletchCore (03:37 PM) :
Let this go undisclosed,
DonovanPhillips (03:37 PM) :
Okay. No amounts or personal info.
FletchCore (03:37 PM) :
I will make a thread saying you have taken care of me, at an undisclosed amount you can use the design however you want.
DonovanPhillips (03:37 PM) :
Okay.
FletchCore (03:38 PM) :
See, noone will look bad Donny.
FletchCore (03:38 PM) :
Wasnt that hard to clear up.
DonovanPhillips (03:39 PM) :
What's your tax ID number again? I need to add that to Quickbooks for 1099s
FletchCore (03:40 PM) :
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER REMOVED
DonovanPhillips (03:45 PM) :
The check is now in an enveloped, stamped, and placed into outgoing mail.
FletchCore (03:46 PM) :
Great
FletchCore (03:46 PM) :
Off to do some work, later
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