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Old 06-30-2004, 11:44 AM  
Cory W
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Recent Moore/Iraq threads are concerning.

The problem with the US methods is that currently, they take in little understanding for the cultures being fought. If you were a Palestinian child, you would view the United States as a terrorist state, no different than we view them (Palestine). Some of you adhere to naive mindsets in hopes that you can sleep better at night. I think the recent threads on Moore's movie and Iraq have been dissapointing in the way that we even exchange our ideas; they put our US mindset on display.

Am I calling the US a terrorist state? No, I am simply bringing to light that just because we live in the US, it doesn't make us the world saviors for all people. One thing that has always intrigued me is that so many US citizens call out for war, but few of them would go fight it. They claim they are inelligible, but I assure you, there is always something you can do. Half of these people would never even drop a nickel in a vets pale. Sometimes war is the only solution, but sometimes we need to remember that a lot of great people in this world died attempting to harness peaceful solutions. We are not a world merely of war heroes.

In 1948, the Indian / British Parliment passed a law setting borders along an asiatic land. To the North, the Muslims, to the South, the Hindus. A man by the name of Ghandi lobbied heavily against this. His reasoning was that by dividing the cultures and segregating ideals within borders, we would lose our hunger and desire to live together. In other words, people divided become aloof to other beliefs and ego-ridden with there own cultural standards and grow with disposition to cross-border groups.

Now, two of the largest known nuclear superpowers and one of, if not the most volitale parts of the world exist along the Pakistani and Indian border. Problem? They never attempted to understand each other.

And so The United States stands on similar grounds. We do not care about other beliefs. Me, I am an atheist. I see many Christian beliefs as ridiculous as Muslim beliefs, but I get to live with you all. I do wholeheartedly understand that those pro-war people want the same thing as the anti-war people: Peace. We would all take that as the solution, we all just have different methods of achieving such bliss. But I understand that. I understand your arguments. I would never call any of you dumb. I enjoy reading Ghandi like I enjoy reading Churchill. I will see a movie with left or right agendas.

Look for example at the tone of post on all the boards. It usually contains a hostile and aggressive tone. It is one thing to be passionate about your politics, but if part of being patriotic is calling out those with other beliefs as idiots or stupid, then I want none of that; it also goes a long way in explaining our many international turbulent affairs. Understanding is key, method is second to that, always.

I know this post comes off as high-handed to some degree, and I have every expectation in the world that it will be greeted with a flurry of "idiot" stamps on my name. But it is just an opinion, and those who attempt to see it from that view less the political / personal-labels will go much further in the way of understanding. You do not have to change your way of thinking to understand where others are coming from. Seeing a movie and attempting to understand the point of view will not hurt your mind. I am sure most presidents are familiar with Marx, like all Psychiatrist are familiar with Freud. Not labeling Moore a political genious, but simply using the viewpoints as examples.

Conservatives makes solid points, although I do not agree with them, I would never label them as dumb for being pro-war. When you say you will not go see a movie because it does not support your view, I have to wonder how secure you are with your beliefs.

If we can't even attempt to understand half of our own, how in the hell can we ever be expected to understand the rest of the world?
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