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Troels · 08-31-2004, 02:46 PM

Well it seems some sponsors have already been made aware of this thread, so I thought it was best to make a counterpost.

You have already been told what happened in this case. We jumped on the expired domain bandwagon, when it was possible to use expired
domains and most importantly their high PR. ANYONE with common sense would know we were not going after any possible typeins, but simply
to use the PR for search engine work.

The one domain in question, the french childrens book publisher, was developed with gay keywords.
It was not apparent by looking at the domainname what the domain had previously been used for, at all.
Should we have checked it? Hindsight says yes, ofcourse. But anyone who has bought expired domains back then know the volume of them,
and I doubt you checked them all.

There's no doubt that the most serious issue in our mind is the preteen page.
Here's the story behind that. We used google adwords keyword suggestion tool for the keywords on that domain (and all other domains
we built back then. Domain was created over a year ago.).
As some of you might know, google adwords returns these shitty keywords including lolita, pre teen, etc when you do a suggestion request.
We did not screen them, we should have. There's no way in hell we'd want this kind of traffic, since it brings nothing but trouble, and is
disgusting.
This was never mentioned by porndollar though (We got the communication). The expired domain was the only reason given. That is what prompted us to ask you why you had
cancelled us. The pre teen issue is a breach yes, but since our login was removed we had no idea. You've made everyone aware now ofcourse...

3 times have we been made aware of this problem with bad keyword generated html pages. Again, Porndollar never mentioned this though. His reason
for terminating us was the problems with the french publicist. Nothing else.
But as I said, 3 times have we had this problem. On all occasions the sponsors told us to take care of the problem. Delete those html
pages or they wouldn't accept our traffic anylonger. Ofcourse we deleted the pages instantly and all other even remotely questionable
keywords we could find.
We've tried to screen them all, but we have thousands of domainnames and it's very very
difficult to find them all. No excuse, just a fact.

We had a domainname that in no way gave any clues as to what it had been used for.
We used it to create search engine traffic. The nichespecific traffic from the search engines was sent to PornDollar.
Problem was ofcourse that the typeins also got to porndollar.

So in conclusion I guess I would suggest you add this to your terms. Take notice ALL webmasters in the search engine game.

You the webmaster must check that ANY domain you choose to send traffic from has not been previously registered
by any nonadult company or organization.
Failure to do so will result in unnotified termination without pay.
As a consequence we will disclose full account signup info.
We will disclose screenshots of password protected stats that reveals sensible business information.
And all this will be done on major public boards.

Just out of curiousity PornDollar.
I'm assuming you cancelled and refunded all the signups we generated for you?
Since you chose not to pay us for them, I would assume you wouldn't want to be the only one profiting from this
breach of your unmentioned terms (by this I mean the expired domain issue, not the preteen violation, since this was never
given as a reason)?
And finally, MANY big search engine players use, or have used, blog spamming to boost their domain popularity. What would you do if/when
I send examples of blog spamming on a youth related blog? Or any NON-adult blog for that matter? Will you terminate them without pay and
post all the sensitive information on the boards? If so, watch out, you will get busy then, because almost every player on this board has
used, or is using this technique. Including the expired domain tactics...

You said "Wanna fuck with me? I will post this on every webmaster board that I have login to" and posted sensitive business information
after we wanted to know why you hadn't paid the money you owe us. The reason given to us initially was not a breach of your terms.
Do you dispute that?
Then you continued with:
"Your done.

Program Owners.. Please find the following information regarding this webmaster. Please take any precautions into insuring that your
business will not be disrupted by this webmaster.."

You've made you reaction to this confrontation. So will we.

08-31-2004, 02:46 PM
Troels Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Between the clouds Posts: 1,035	Well it seems some sponsors have already been made aware of this thread, so I thought it was best to make a counterpost. You have already been told what happened in this case. We jumped on the expired domain bandwagon, when it was possible to use expired domains and most importantly their high PR. ANYONE with common sense would know we were not going after any possible typeins, but simply to use the PR for search engine work. The one domain in question, the french childrens book publisher, was developed with gay keywords. It was not apparent by looking at the domainname what the domain had previously been used for, at all. Should we have checked it? Hindsight says yes, ofcourse. But anyone who has bought expired domains back then know the volume of them, and I doubt you checked them all. There's no doubt that the most serious issue in our mind is the preteen page. Here's the story behind that. We used google adwords keyword suggestion tool for the keywords on that domain (and all other domains we built back then. Domain was created over a year ago.). As some of you might know, google adwords returns these shitty keywords including lolita, pre teen, etc when you do a suggestion request. We did not screen them, we should have. There's no way in hell we'd want this kind of traffic, since it brings nothing but trouble, and is disgusting. This was never mentioned by porndollar though (We got the communication). The expired domain was the only reason given. That is what prompted us to ask you why you had cancelled us. The pre teen issue is a breach yes, but since our login was removed we had no idea. You've made everyone aware now ofcourse... 3 times have we been made aware of this problem with bad keyword generated html pages. Again, Porndollar never mentioned this though. His reason for terminating us was the problems with the french publicist. Nothing else. But as I said, 3 times have we had this problem. On all occasions the sponsors told us to take care of the problem. Delete those html pages or they wouldn't accept our traffic anylonger. Ofcourse we deleted the pages instantly and all other even remotely questionable keywords we could find. We've tried to screen them all, but we have thousands of domainnames and it's very very difficult to find them all. No excuse, just a fact. We had a domainname that in no way gave any clues as to what it had been used for. We used it to create search engine traffic. The nichespecific traffic from the search engines was sent to PornDollar. Problem was ofcourse that the typeins also got to porndollar. So in conclusion I guess I would suggest you add this to your terms. Take notice ALL webmasters in the search engine game. You the webmaster must check that ANY domain you choose to send traffic from has not been previously registered by any nonadult company or organization. Failure to do so will result in unnotified termination without pay. As a consequence we will disclose full account signup info. We will disclose screenshots of password protected stats that reveals sensible business information. And all this will be done on major public boards. Just out of curiousity PornDollar. I'm assuming you cancelled and refunded all the signups we generated for you? Since you chose not to pay us for them, I would assume you wouldn't want to be the only one profiting from this breach of your unmentioned terms (by this I mean the expired domain issue, not the preteen violation, since this was never given as a reason)? And finally, MANY big search engine players use, or have used, blog spamming to boost their domain popularity. What would you do if/when I send examples of blog spamming on a youth related blog? Or any NON-adult blog for that matter? Will you terminate them without pay and post all the sensitive information on the boards? If so, watch out, you will get busy then, because almost every player on this board has used, or is using this technique. Including the expired domain tactics... You said "Wanna fuck with me? I will post this on every webmaster board that I have login to" and posted sensitive business information after we wanted to know why you hadn't paid the money you owe us. The reason given to us initially was not a breach of your terms. Do you dispute that? Then you continued with: "Your done. Program Owners.. Please find the following information regarding this webmaster. Please take any precautions into insuring that your business will not be disrupted by this webmaster.." You've made you reaction to this confrontation. So will we. __________________ These guys steal your signups: Read here. And sexsearch.com profit from it. Check out which sponsors pay thieves here. And here's a list of clean sponsors.