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Originally posted by Dirty_DS
no worries bro.... but you also have to think... do you think getting rid of porno is bush's number one priority? CP maybe.. but people like me who have all paperwork in line... abide by the laws.. they really don't care about... there not going to fight battle they have no chance in.... specally since that will violate the 1st amenmendt... people wonder each day why howard is in trouble... well he would bash the FCC everyday on his show.. so they had to do something... not that I agree with what they did... as a vet I support all our troops and always will.... and I have to support bush because he has the experience kerrey has none... if we had other choices I would vote otherwise know what I mean... but as the old saying goes.. don;t start nothing won't be nothing... all the gov wants is a piece of the action.. we pay our taxes and there happy... nothing is going to happen... let me ask you this.... if bush wins... and within the first year there is nothing done to our industry which I know there will not be... how about some traffic back? until then the choice is yours.. I could have kept my mouth shut in this thread and kept my traffic from you which I love... but we are all americans and do speak our minds... nothing personal... first round is on me in vegas... also bro... contact me on the felony you got on your record... I got strings to get rid of things like that.....
Danza
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I don't know who I'm going to vote for but it won't be Bush.
You really think it's a simple matter of being an upstanding citizen that pays his taxes and you're ok while you make money making women gag on your penis?
When it comes to things like "obscenity", people will see what you do differently than you do because "obscenity" is a vague and subjective term. Some will say a blowjob is fine, but a blowjob that involves gagging is obscene. When you have grey areas like that, don't be surprised that you wind up in jail even though you've never had problems with the law before, paid your taxes, and are a nice person.
But that would violate the 1st amendment you say? We legally violate the 1st amendment to people everyday when we think they're doing something that they shouldn't be doing. Prisons are filled to the brim with people who are having their 1st amendment violated. But it's done legally. Most of them are in prison because broke the rules and society's standards of conduct. It's worse when the rules and conduct are subjective and based on things like "obscenity" because what is deemed fine today might be deemed "obscene" tomorrow.
Never win on their crusade you say? Sodomy laws are pretty insane don't you think? You can't stuff you penis in somebody's willing ass in some States even if they're consenting adults because it's "obscene". It's actually ridiculous to have this law, but guess what, ridiculous laws have apparently passed in those states. What makes you so certain new laws like this won't be instroduced, except that it will include sodomy AND chicks gagging on male penises? If it did, you'd have to find a whole new niche to work in being the honest tax paying citizen that you are, right?
The Adult industry is small fry. This can have two effects. It can mean that we are ignored and left to do what we want because we really don't make a dent in the economy. It can mean the opposite too. It could mean that we get shutdown because we are a small powerless community, and the larger mainstream community feels that what we do is obscene enough to cut us off. Nobody knows which road or how far on the road an Administration is going to travel. It's like Visa being concerned about our industry. They aren't because we make up a small fraction of their revenue (something like 2% I've heard). That's why they have no problems shutting down multi million dollar processors overnight. They might think twice if we did say 50% of their revenue regardless of the headaches we cause them with chargebacks and the like.
On another note, I'm not clear on why people assume that under Kerry we'll be better off. That's completely unknown unless you can predict the future. I suppose many feel that it couldn't be worse than what it is now (maybe it can?). But if you think that such laws would be struck down under Bush I suppose the logic would stand that they would be struck down under Kerry too by the courts.
Just something to think about. I see that you have other reasons for voting for Bush such as supporting the troops and so forth, and that's your right. I would take issue with all of those reasons (example supporting Bush is not supporting the troops but rather supporting the wanton death of troops because he's put them somewhere they shouldn't be) but that's for a seperate discussion.