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Originally posted by jimmy3way
Doesn't that make your opinion a little invalid, bro?
I'm extremely dubious about Alli's arguments that this is such a great thing for webmasters because I'm 99% sure that she doesn't have any kind of aggregate numbers whatsoever to back up her claims. That's simply not the way TopBucks has ever worked and I doubt it does now.
She claims they tested the programme, really? Give us the results! I'd be interested as hell to see who they tested it with, what kinda traffic these people threw at it, when the testing period was, who the control group was, etc, etc.
Maybe even some of them could come to the board and share their experience.
See the thing is anytime she (Allison) seems to need to do anything industry related she seems to come to this board (ie, looking for models, midgets, Florida content producers, etc.) I would think if they were looking for beta testers she might have mentioned it here...
However, the simple fact is there's nothing wrong with what they're doing...I originally misunderstood exactly how it worked...but it remains: as an affiliate you sell your traffic to a program, YOU as a webmaster choose the program. As long as people keep choosing TB you are endorsing this stuff, and if you are endorsing it...well welcome to democracy fellahs.
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I understand what you are saying, but all they have to do is put it up for a day and see how sales do for their own sites. You don't need beta testers and things like that - granted it isn't that scientific, but if you have been averaging X number of signups each monday - you put it up on a monday and if it falls within that range than you have a ballpark idea. I am sure they can easily see conversions for each of their site in total. Things can't be THAT different from day to day. I do the same thing - put up a new tour - try it for a few days and see what happens. It isn't perfect, but it saves a lot of time and money doing a true scientific test.
I am biased, but I am biased based on good evidence. I get lots of signups from them. They didn't know me from adam. I have other sponsors as well, some have niches TopBucks doesn't, some offer fre trials, and I like some variety. But overall - TopBucks does better for me. I know about what I should be getting. If something doesn't fall in that range - I do something different. Different Layout, Sponsors, Tours, whatever. It takes me no longer than 3 days to see if a sponsor is good for me. If it doesn't work out - I move on and don't worry about it - it could have just been luck, and I might try them again later. Many of those complaining have been using TopBucks for a WHILE. They either don't have enough traffic - and shouldn't be accusing anyone of anything - or do and should have moved on a long time ago.
Lots of people just jump in with opinions and no FACTS. The fact is ANYONE who claims someone is SHAVING (as fact) based on their signups COULD BE sued (I know they never would be). It is unprofessional - NO REAL BUSINESS person would do that. Is it any wonder that they can't get signups?
Also, as I enumerated in the message you quoted - PEOPLE CAN'T READ. The three I listed were the last three posts making SPECIFIC ACCUSATIONS against topbucks.
IN EVERY CASE - The Webmaster WAS CLEARLY WRONG. Even though they were somewhat honest mistakes. When people can't read simple stuff - what do you expect?
They made SPECIFIC accusations and were wrong - so why should ANYONE believe those that make these general accusations that "conversions are decreasing".
I know on at least two occasions (don't remember if it was topbucks or not) that people were bitching up a storn about traffic not being counted WHEN THEY DIDN'T HAVE a referal code in the url. I saw one case on a non adult board where someone was bitching about "XYZ is a cheat - they never paid me, blah, blah, blah." Sponsor mentioned that there records showed the check had been cashed. Person than said something like "Oh yeah, I forgot sorry."
Everyone wants to blame their problems on other people. All I can say is MY CONVERSIONS are steady and MY SALES are half way decent.
Therefore - either TopBucks just loves me or they are doing something wrong - no don't have enough traffic. NO ONE EVER SAYS:
"My conversions seem to be going down - do you have any suggestions as to what I can do?"
Nope - they always blame it on the sponsor. I know you make fun of me for suggesting tour changes, but I changed tours the first time a few months ago - and the difference was immediate. I got about 50% more signups than the pay period before.
Just my
