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Please research hormone replacement therapy (specifically TRT) in older men. It has been shown that an increase in the ease of daily activities as well as fat loss occur in testosterone deficient males on HRT. This is due to androgenic stimiulus and the bodies ability to deal with physical and psychological stress (as stated by Jenetic)
Steroids DO have a positive effect on strength because of their androgenic properties (physical and mental). Read the above once more.
Maybe you missed my other argument about EQ and Halotestin, a couple of steroids that increase the users red blood cell count, positively effecting their V02 max and aerobic capabilities?
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This is all in relation to stress that has been put onto the body. The body will recover from stress and steroids increases recouperation abilities.
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As for your off topic remark about a couch potato building muscle. Steroids like Anavar are used to increase protein synthesis, (directly related to muscle building) in wasting patients like burn victims.... to help these patients heal faster. These patients are (effectively couch potatos) limited to lying down and watching TV.
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I hate arguing the couch potato argument, but there are a lot of people who believe it. The body will not heal unless it has been damaged, and it will not adapt unless it has been stressed. You have not provided an example of how someone can adapt without stress, which is what I'm arguing against when I say "steroids do not make anyone faster or stronger."
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Staying on topic, an ATHELETE will get strength and endurance gains while using steroids. Your "assymilation" argument states that steroids ONLY enhance nutritional intake and muscle repair is wrong.
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That's all steroids do. Yes, an athlete will get stronger and faster, because the athlete is putting his body under stress, where as a couch potato is not. That's why I'm arguing that the steroid cannot do that by itself. By themself all they will do is increase recouperation, and nutritional assymilation. Without stress, all the gear in the world means nothing.
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Steroids won't grow muscle for someone that is frozen in a block of ice, no. But even a couch potatos daily activities involve the use of muscle resulting in a breakdown of those cells, in turn benefiting (not much) from the use of AAS.
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Adaption comes from unusual and usually intense stimulus, which is why most athletes exercise to muscular exhaustion. The couch potato is not stressing his body, therefore adaption cannot occur and all the gear in the world isn't going to make that couch potato grow any muscle.