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Old 02-05-2005, 01:15 AM  
sean416
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Originally Posted by crash
If you are that CRAP at SEO that you think anyone who read the whole thread could compete nad become an SEO spammer, then you are a fucking idiot and have no clue about SEO. There are about 100 nuances of the technique, that, if not included, would be a useless waste of time.

The secret to SEO is knowledge, nothing more, nothing less. You cant buy the scripts I have, you cant buy the scripts any SEO's have as they are all different. I have 5 good mates who all make serious $$ from SEO'ing, we all talk freely and openly to each other. We all do SEO in different ways and build PR, sites, words and just about everything else in a completely different way. But the information flow between us all keeps us all current. Thats why we all do so well.

We are all comfortable with what we do and how we do it, and openly exchange information with each other, as we do the same thing, just in completely different ways. Yes we trade links and help each other on different ways, but what we all do is so different that we can do this. We all target the same niches - Like I said - OUR techniques are so different the even though we are in the same marketplace, we are so different in our methods and technologies, we can all work together.

For all the SEO wannabe's, there is not set formula, there is no product you can buy, there are no secrets. There are a thousand different ways of doing SEO and doing it well. You just have to figure out your own way, and thats all there is.

The only way to become an SEO is to read everyting there is on the SEO forums, build stuff, see what works and what doesnt. Spend days looking at your stats, yours SERPS, your linking strategies. Build 10 sites a day on different templates, with different links, for different keywords, its the only way. DO that for 2 years and you are an SEO spammer. There is no one who can teach you to become an SEO, and no one who will. I say again, the only way to become an SEO is to work really hard, figure out what you think should be done and test it. When one of your tests makes money, you replicate, adinfinitum, on different words. At theat point you are an SEO.

There is no short cut, no software and no advice anyone can (will) give you, you just have to put the hard yards in.

I completely agree with this. You can learn the basics, you can get tips from other SEO'ers bu the only way you're every going to become a master(if thats even possible) at this craft is by experience and determination and a little luck never hurts. Only idiots are threatened by threads like these. I encourage open discussion about SEO because I know at the end of the day, if we all talk about it.. we'll stand to gain more then we could ever lose.

The only thing I reccomend to anyone else who maybe thinking of starting an SEO thread to help out his/her fellow GFYers is remember, nobody spoon fed you when you were starting out, so dont spoon feed anyone else. No friend is worth it, no amount of money is worth it and you're only creating a monster by doing it. Offering advice and having open conversations is a perfectly healthy thing though and instead of this "there's no money in SEO" business like its some big secret... well, I think thats silly. When its a joke, its funny. But when you're seriously trying to discourage people from learning about it, thats not neccessary.

Good job crash!
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