Originally Posted by Shoehorn

Debating with this you is a waste of my time. You don't get it, and I can't understand why. It is illegal to live in this country without a Visa. It is also illegal here to work without a Visa. Staying here without that is illegal, same as killing someone is illegal. If you kill someone, that makes you a criminal. My ancestors came here from Greece with nothing and worked their asses off, and it paid off. Thats the difference between the old school European work ethic and todays work ethic. Immigrants then saw America as a land of opportunity, where hard work would pay off. Immigrants today see America as a free ride, where if they are sly enough and can work the system well enough then they will get something for nothing. This country doesn't owe anyone a goddamn, and it pisses me off when people think that it does.