Now that I'm back from the doctor, you sure have been busy posting away.
Laura, you're the one twisting words now, isn't that what you're accusing me of?
Take a look here and I don't want to hear "your traffic / our program" stuff because it's bought traffic and basically you'd be saying that a lot of different site traffic sucks and my other sponsors are stellar in response to "my" traffic.
Now that you're playing mix n match with our conversation, let me dig up the ICQ history.:
Date : 4/4/2005 Time : 12:52 PM
To : Adult Site Traffic
Can you please help me for a minute?
Date : 4/11/2005 Time : 1:04 PM
To : Adult Site Traffic
Hey Laura?
Date : 4/11/2005 Time : 1:04 PM
To : Adult Site Traffic
I have a problem with my account.
Date : 4/11/2005 Time : 1:09 PM
To : Adult Site Traffic
I'm not showing any overlimit protection payments and also I need to change my payout.
When I
signed up it said minimum $5.00 but now it says minimum $100.00
I will never be able to hit
payout @ $100.00 because I need to pull your links immediately. I need to try to get my payment of
$40.00 please.
Date : 4/11/2005 Time : 1:24 PM
To : Adult Site Traffic
Helloooo ??
Date : 4/11/2005 Time : 3:58 PM
To : Adult Site Traffic
Laura?
(Insert Phone Call Here)
Date : 4/11/2005 Time : 4:08 PM
From : Laura Lee
ok accounting is not online or me to IM her.. so i sent her an email, i will let you know the
minute i hear back.
Date : 4/11/2005 Time : 4:08 PM
To : Adult Site Traffic
Thank you
Date : 4/11/2005 Time : 4:09 PM
To : Adult Site Traffic
What about the overlimit protection ? I didn't see any of that applied.
Date : 4/11/2005 Time : 4:10 PM
From : Laura Lee
let me check your stats.
Date : 4/11/2005 Time : 4:10 PM
To : Adult Site Traffic
Ok.
Date : 4/11/2005 Time : 4:16 PM
From : Laura Lee
overlimit protection is based on daily numbers, not/weekly monthly
Date : 4/11/2005 Time : 4:17 PM
To : Adult Site Traffic
Yea. Haven't I sent 500 to 1000/day ? No ?
Date : 4/11/2005 Time : 4:18 PM
To : Adult Site Traffic
Just today I sent 564 with your traffic turned off.
Date : 4/11/2005 Time : 4:18 PM
From : Laura Lee
we calculate ratio's/conversions based on 2nd page hits. so you would have to have sent 500 2nd
page uniques per day without a sale to qualify
Date : 4/11/2005 Time : 4:19 PM
To : Adult Site Traffic
Well that's convienient.
(and time goes by..)
Date : 4/12/2005 Time : 4:38 PM
To : Adult Site Traffic
So can I get paid or no ?
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 8:31 AM
From : Laura Lee
I did get a reply email from accounting.
*Foreign epass accounts are paid on the 10th of the
month
*We have a minimum payout agreement set up with epass which is why the minimum is
$100
*You have not met the minimum, as you are only owed $40.87
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..
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 8:35 AM
To : Adult Site Traffic
Oh, and that "min agreement" you have with "epass". That's BS Laura. Epass has no such "agreements"
with anyone for any minimums
Don't forget I'm a program owner too.
But I'll be happy to
quote you on that.
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..
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 8:47 AM
From : Laura Lee
Accounting has stated that the minimum payout is set for $100, I am confident in assuming this
was agreed upon by BOTH parties when we began utilizing their service.
As a program owner (as you mention above) I would have also assumed that you would understand that, to have and run a
successful business/company you need to have rules. But since you have the ?Look at me i can make
threats and I am the exception to the rule" attitude, I guess those rules don?t apply to you??
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 8:50 AM
To : Adult Site Traffic
How are you eentitled to keep my $40.00 or expect me to invens another approx $500.00 in you to hit
that $100.00 payout?
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 8:54 AM
From : Laura Lee
You are not going to twist my words, so don't even waste your effort. I NEVER said we were
"keeping your money until the minimum payout was reached"
I SAID:
i don't expect you to waste
your traffic if it is not converting with our sites. I then told you that a check would be sent
for what you are owed.
Tell me, how is that saying to you we would not pay you??
Get you facts
straight... please tell me when i ever said to you "Go spend more money so that you can reach your
minimum"
LIES... never said once, how dare you try to say that stuff
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 8:55 AM
From : Laura Lee
all i ever said was we would be mailing you a check since you told me straight up you would never
meet the $100 minimum for epass.
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 8:58 AM
To : Adult Site Traffic
LOL. Well, we already discussed that check thing.
I live in CANCUN MEXICO like I told you, and
checks have a way on not getting here and when they do, they're expired by the time I get them to
my bank.
Now, the definition of a lie is when you told me that TCG has an agreement with epass
which requires you to pay a $100.00 minimum. But I'm gonna give epass a chance to answer to that
publically in just a sec.
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 9:02 AM
To : Adult Site Traffic
You tried to snowball me on that e-pass thing and pass the buck to e-pass, not knowing that I have
a personal, commerce and corporate epass account and that I have also run a program and managed
affiliates.
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 9:04 AM
From : Laura Lee
nice try, you are a peice of work, why don't we deal in truths here instead of your continual word
twisting and deception. nice try passing your lack of honestly off on me. not happening and never
will.
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 9:04 AM
To : Adult Site Traffic
But I tell you what. I have an idea now that you mention it. And yes, sometimes I don't even get my
power bill or phone bill from this town, much less from out of the country.
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 9:05 AM
To : Adult Site Traffic
Oops. What are you coming at me with lack of honesty? I was about to be able to solve this, but
what now .. ?
Explain that.
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 9:08 AM
To : Adult Site Traffic
What I said was:
I those that are not, and not one.. not one of them has ever told me that
"sorry, your loss". Keep wasting money on us or you don't get paid 'till you meet the minimum or we
just keep your money.
How are you eentitled to keep my $40.00 or expect me to invens another
approx $500.00 in you to hit that $100.00 payout?
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 9:09 AM
To : Adult Site Traffic
I never said that YOU said you were keeping my money.
So, that leaves you with the epass min
thing, not me "twisting your words".
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 9:09 AM
From : Laura Lee
EXACTLY, and when did i ever say that to you??? i never said to spend more money to get to the
minimum
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 9:10 AM
To : Adult Site Traffic
I never said you did Laura. I said "what am I supposed to do ... ?"
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 9:12 AM
From : Laura Lee
if you see fit, take it to the boards, we can battle their is that is what you see as fun
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 9:13 AM
To : Adult Site Traffic
It will cost you more than 40 bucks.
Date : 4/13/2005 Time : 9:13 AM
To : Adult Site Traffic
I promise.