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Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips
It's funny to see how a teenage newbie will see content as crap, yet someone like myself will see the exact same fucking images and see gold. Could it be that in my 8 years of doing this, sending millions of uniques each month to my sites, that I know what converts a little better than you do?
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tsk tsk tsk. Don, get off the bandwagon.
His age really has nothing to do with this. It's just inexperience. Wouldn't matter if he was 19 or 91. To him, the content is useless. It's for an amateur teen site. It just would not fit the bill. If he had a real amateur site like yours then it would. You see it as gold because your area of business is amateur. You know what converts better for YOUR site. It doesn't mean you know anything better than anyone. Just because you have amateurs on your site Donny and it converts being sold as amateur doesn't mean you are the know all of converting. It just means you sold an amateur product as amateur. Simple as that.
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Give the surfer something they don't see on every fucking site and on every fucking TGP out there and they'll sign up.
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give them what YOU like and wonder why you don't make any sales.
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Your analogy of "give them what YOU like and wonder why you don't make any sales. " is 100% not relevant to the situation. He is not selling memberships with the content, it's filler for his site. Read the whole thread or find out what the whole scoop is before making blanket statements like this. The sales are already made. If you joined a site like ashleybrookes and found those Shineade O'connor girls in there would you want to continue to be a member? Wouldn't you feel the least bit jaded? understand why the content is not useful to him?
Read that thread Raven bumped yesterday. Did you see how John Hughes, my AmateurMarket.net webmaster, was raving about how great this content is and how he's seeing gold?
I honestly didn't want to go into specific detail on what converts amateur girl-next-door traffic but you've pissed me off enough to reveal a few secrets. Damn it.[/QUOTE]
You don't know what's really going on in this specific situation and it shows. Having this content in his members area has nothing to do with what's gold.
You almost make it sound like you thought he was going to be using this content as the main focal point of his site. Now, if he was and the site was a real amateur site, then I would agree with you 100% but the content is filler for a next door cute teen type site.
The only reason I made any comments in this thread was because I knew a fair amount about what his site is and what is going on as I have been advising him on things and just shooting the shit with him. If I didn't I would not have said a damn word. As should you...
That all being said, if Sam has the time and resources he could use this content to make his money back easily. It's definitely "real amateur" type content.
I just think that everyone that doesn't know what's going on should shut up, mind their own business and let Aaron and Sam work this out on their own. It looks like Aaron is willing to judging from his recent posts.