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Originally Posted by PureTotty
Thanks for both the nice advice and the reality check. Appologies to PleasurePays... I guess it was just the harshness that got my back up, but bhutocracy was right their was some good advice in there
As there was in your post, apart from shutting my pie hole...  is anyone out in AOE in November, I will be there and would love to meet up and show I aint really a bad guy 
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haha. i am not offended by anything. no need to apologize. its all just pixels on a monitor to me. but you have to understand that most of the people responding to your posts have never run an affiliate program and have never even dreamt of 100 joins a day to a site. i bet a few of these guys can't muster up 100 hits a day.
you will have to accept that 10K is not enough to do anything with. with one site i have right now, i have spent over 100K on traffic in the last couple months and I am still tweaking, tuning and making changes. thats just to test. thats just money to set on fire and watch burn while i figure out what works best. there is a massive learning curve in this business. its huge. and just as fast as you are figuring things out, everything is changing.
you could buy links on the hun and world sex for 10K and maybe never get more than 10 joins for that money in a month. there are just too many factors to consider and its not fair to you for anyone to say "yeah, its possible" when they are just responding to the thread title... and not considering what you wrote...that you are investing money in and launching a program/site with no understanding of how the business works.
you take it as an insult for people to say that your asking the question is a good indication that you will fail... and fail to realize that if you have to ask such a question, you have sooooooo much to learn already, that your chances of succeeding are almost nil.
and i am sorry... these projects have came and went from all over the world. great sites, hot chicks, compelling content... voyeur houses from las vegas, costa rica, malibu, seattle, miami, moscow, riga, prague etc etc etc etc etc etc etc... there has been many. they are all gone. and you should really give that some thought. why are they gone. I can tell you, but it does not sound like you are ready for the answer.... but i will tell you anyway. the content is not as interesting to surfers as you think it will be. not my idea, not my opinion but a time proven fact.
no big adult program is going to add it to their members area no matter how cool it is or what upsell you offer because they know their members don't care.
as others besides myself have mentioned... these sites convert poorly. they have poor retention. it takes only a few minutes to click through the cams and get bored with it... and no matter how many cams you have, most cams are going to not have anyone there. you will learn how hard that is too... wait until you get bombarded with e-mails complaining that no girls were in the house even though you know you had 6 in the house all day for 3 days. this is most likely going to be the most frustrating and disspointing experience you will have in this biz and i am sorry, but i dont see it working.
and for the record, i ran the content side of geishahouse.com, it is in russia - even today and i turned it over to one of my friends who runs it for directsex. the girls are Russian/Korean - and thats not the only one i have done. But you should know that that site (and others) are still online because the chat rooms make money. the site doesn't make money. BUT the chat rooms also have their own traffic from other sources... not from the site itself. even if you did 100 joins a day, you would not have a big enough members base to make money with the chat without significant traffic from others sources. 100 users per day does not mean 100 chat users per day. i dont think geishahouse.com with all their affiliates ever got more than 30 joins a day to that site at its peak and its been online since 98.
i know the numbers of this game very well. thats why my best advice to you was to just slow down first. take your time, think about what you are doing, learn a little, talk to people and make sure you have a plan that makes sense. it takes more than enthusiasm and determination when you have 20-30-40-50K per month in bills to pay and they are due on the first of each month.
